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Nate Diaz Has Title Shot at Stake; Jim Miller “a Fight or Two Away”

Posted on by Ken Pishna

Nate Diaz vs Jim Miller UFC on Fox 3Much has been made about the winner of Saturday’s UFC on Fox 3 main event between Nate Diaz and Jim Miller getting a shot at the UFC lightweight championship… but that’s only partially correct.

“If Diaz wins, he gets a title shot; if Miller wins, he is probably still a fight or two away,” said UFC president Dana White on Wednesday, who likened the fight to the situation that Rashad Evans and Phil Davis were in at UFC on Fox 2 in January.

Evans earned a shot at UFC light heavyweight champion Jon Jones with a win over Davis, while Davis, if he had won, was still going to be a fight or two away from his title bid.

Following a rough patch at lightweight, Diaz made an attempt at welterweight over the past couple of years, where he went 2-2 at 170 pounds.

Late last year, he returned to lightweight, making an immediate impact, submitting Takanori Gomi and winning a unanimous decision over Donald Cerrone, who had been making his own run towards the title at the time.

Miller had been rocketing towards a title shot with seven consecutive victories, but he heard the brakes screech after losing a unanimous decision to current UFC lightweight champion Benson Henderson last August.

He bounced back with a submission of Melvin Guillard in the main event of the first UFC on FX event, but now needs to keep the roll going to get back into the hunt for the belt.


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  • phrankthetank

    What?? Millers only loss in 9 fights is to the current champ and he’s still a couple fights away from a shot? This should be a straight up no1 contenders match. Miller has won 8 of his last 9 fights, Diaz had won 5 of his last 9 fights.

    • RonnieV

      Oh Phranky here we go again. How do you think Miller would have done against Rory MacDonald? I believe both guys deserve a chance at the title over Pettis. Nate has never been dominated by another lightweight in the UFC. Like Miller, all his lightweight losses were close decisions.

      • phrankthetank

        All I’m saying is that if Diaz deserves a title shot with a win, then miller definitely deserves a title shot with a win.

        • Triggerman99

          I disagree. Miller already has been beaten by both guys currently fighting for the title. It’s Diaz’s turn.

          • phrankthetank

            And if Diaz wins he should get his turn, but if miller beats Diaz he should finally get his title shot.

          • tsszaltax

            Not sure how a guy beating someone “at least 1 or 2 wins away IF he wins this one” is worthy of being an opponent for a title shot. So….beat someone 3 victories away from a title shot, and you get a title shot…but if the guy 3 victories away beats the guy that gets a title shot if he wins, he has to win 2 more….bad mojo imo….should be title shot for the winner, period

          • RubeKegal

            Trigger you’re way off. You know Chuck lost to Randy his 1st time they fought….also Miller dropped Bendo twice and I think he shouldnt have gone for that arm triangle it could have been a different outcome.

      • RubeKegal

        Ronnie V starts again with the horrendous arguments. Miller is getting shafted plain and simple.

        • Triggerman99

          You can’t compare this to Chuck and Randy. The UFC was a ghost town in those days. Contenders were few and far between. That’s not the case today.

          And tsszaltax; If we’re going by your formula, then Edgar never should have gotten a chance to be champ in the 1st place. He got the title shot after beating Matt Veach or some $hit like that. You’re telling me that guy would have gotten a title shot with a win? In fact, the only reason Edgar got the shot was because Maynard didn’t earn it in his fight with Diaz. Most people actually thought Diaz won that fight, which in an indirect way actually helps Diaz’s case in this situation.

          • RubeKegal

            Yeah he beat Veach after he beat Sherk and Franca and didn’t want a long layoff while BJ fought Diego and Kenny Florian.

            It wasn’t his win over Veach that sealed the deal, im just saying. Your hypothesis with Maynard isn’t convincing.

      • RubeKegal

        Ronnie V gargles Diaz jizz = fact

        • Triggerman99

          Right, but my arguement was only directed at tsszaltax’s formula for determing that Diaz doesn’t deserve a shot with a win over Miller, not an arguement for Edgar’s body of work. It was just a comparison of one specific situation.
          Like I said; I’m not gonna be confused by talking backwards like that. My point was very specific.

    • shakejunt

      yeah and ryan bader deserves a title shot if he beats lyoto

      -_- please…

      • phrankthetank

        How does that even relate? Machida doesn’t even deserve a shot if he wins that fight.

  • matty

    This doesn’t make since to me either. Diaz doesn’t have a chance of beating Bendo so either way I guess it doesn’t matter.

    • RubeKegal

      Matty you hit the nail on the head

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000468891939 liemianbresenio

    It makes sense in terms of promotion. Diaz sells himself to casuals by acting ghetto, whereas you need to boot up the Joe Rogan hype-o-tron 2000 for Miller.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002352591498 keldricshannon

    Who the hell else would they match Miller up with when he’s pretty much destroyed every other lightweight except Frankie(which was a long time ago) and current champ Bendo. What will get the fans most excited is watching the clear two best of the division fight and not some popularity contest. I don’t want to see MMA go down the WWE road because I hate the WWE.

    • Triggerman99

      You forgot Maynard. Miller got dominated by him, too.

      • RubeKegal

        Edgar also got dominated by Maynard in their first fight…just saying trigger.

  • Towers66

    Lol. Saying Diaz stands no chance against Henderson is a little bit untrue. Does miller stand a chance?….or just Pettis?

  • Triggerman99

    Miller just got tooled by Henderson. That’s why he doesn’t get a title shot with a win and Diaz does. This isn’t that hard to figure out.

    • phrankthetank

      Tooled? The dude was fighting while Ill and lost to the current champ. If he beats Diaz he should get his shot. Who else is there for him to fight?

      • Triggerman99

        Sick or not, he still got dominated. If he beats Diaz, then what’s the point of sending him right back in there against Henderson to get dominated again? If he beats Diaz, I say give him Pettis or Maynard. He lost to Maynard, and a lot of people think Pettis deserves a shot. Either of those fights would solidify him a shot in the public eye when coupled with beating Diaz.

        • phrankthetank

          Sick or not he got dominated? How do you completely disregard the fact that he fought with mono and a kidney infection and still didn’t quit? Craziness

          • RubeKegal

            not to mention he was winning until the arm triangle attempt that prob gassed him out.

          • Triggerman99

            How do you completely disregard the fact that this isn’t “What Would Have Happened”? You can’t just write it off like it didn’t happen. He lost. That’s life. Good for him for not quitting, but what do you expect, it should be stricken from the record or something?

          • RubeKegal

            trigger I disagree completely. Diaz’s only impressive win is over Cerrone.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002352591498 keldricshannon

    Bendo vs Diaz would be a good fight but we need to remember that Frankie Edgar has a shot at beating Bendo. Dana White said after the first fight that he believed Edgar won that fight in Japan which had a lot of weird judging that night. I would not be that excited to potentially see Edgar vs Diaz even though I like both fighters that’s a weird style match up.

  • adam1848

    Funny…I completely disagree. I’d rather see Nate fight Frankie than Bendo. I think if Nate gets the better of the striking with Bendo, Bendo has the size to hold Nate down, whereas I see Frankie taking Nate down but Nate getting back up and turning it back into a boxing match.

    Dumb question, but is this fight, Miller v Diaz, 3 or 5 rounds? And if 3, WHY!? This fight is going the distance and I’d rather see 5.

    • adam1848

      Miller v Diaz has split decision written all over it.

    • Triggerman99

      I would think it would be 5. Why wouldn’t it be?

      I agree that Bendo would likely try to hold Diaz down and stall out a decision. He’s got good enough jitz to defend Diaz’s submissions, so that would probably be his gameplan. There aren’t a lot of LWs who would opt to stand with Diaz right about now. There’s a few, but Henderson isn’t one of them.

      • adam1848

        Well, Gustafsson v Silva was a 3 round fight, for example.

        • Triggerman99

          Yeah I forgot about that. This whole idea of having all main-events be 5-round fights doesn’t seem to be very concrete, does it? LOL

          • adam1848

            Just found out Miller v Diaz is 5 rounds, thankfully.

  • bajafox

    If Frankie wins, what are the chances of there being a 3rd to settle the score?

    • adam1848

      If its a close decision, I don’t know how you can not give Bendo the rubber match. Hopefully, as with Edgar Maynard 3 and Machida Shogun 2, someone will finish the fight.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sivarteloc traviscole

    Miller would look a lot better against Bendo now that he isn’t fight with Mono. Yep dude is such a beast he took Bendo to a decision with Mono!!!

    • adam1848

      How can anyone not love Jim Miller? Dude is well rounded and shows up to fight EVERY time. I honestly can’t think of a single bad thing to say about the guy. The only thing he doesn’t do well is hype himself up, and thats a positive thing in my book.

    • bdono554

      Mono and a kidney infection!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002352591498 keldricshannon

    That’s why I like Miller too because he doesn’t do these WWE theatrics, he just goes out and beats peoples ass like he’s supposed to do. MMA should be about winning fights no matter how it looks and who’s actually the best fighter, not who has the biggest mouth or acts like a dumbass. The crime here is that Dana White is acting like Jim Miller is a boring ass Ben Askren or Jon Fitch that no one would want to watch when he’s actually one of the most exciting fighters in the UFC.

    • Triggerman99

      Where did you get that from? When did Dana act like the reason Miller is still a few fights away is because he is boring? I’ve never heard anybody say that about Miller.

      • phrankthetank

        I don’t think I ever heard Dana say that Fitch didn’t get a shot because he was boring either, doesn’t mean it’s not the truth.

        • Triggerman99

          No, I mean I’ve never heard anybody say Miller is boring. I hear lots of people say Fitch is boring; that’s nothing new. And Fitch did get a shot, and it was boring.

          • phrankthetank

            Fair enough, but Fitch vs GSP was boring? That was an awesome fight!

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002352591498 keldricshannon

    I mean that maybe he doesn’t want to give Miller a shot at the belt because I think that he thinks Miller has no personality and would be hard to sell PPV’s if he were to win a championship. Dana never said he was a boring fighter but maybe just boring as a person. This is the only logical explanation that I can think of because if Miller beats Diaz on Saturday, that will be wins in 9 out of his last 10 fights in the hardest division.

    • Triggerman99

      Well, that’s a pretty big assumption to make, don’t you think?
      It seems to me that people are disregarding the fact Miller just lost to the current champ. He’s proven that he can’t hang with the top guys, and his biggest win is either Guillard or Shalarous. Beating those guys does not earn you a title shot. That’s why he’s still a few wins away, not because he’s boring (which he’s not).

      • RubeKegal

        lol Trigger you troll….go back to knitting ya clown.

        Miller is 10-2 in the UFC and beat tough guys while Diaz is getting the nod for beating an overrated Japanese fighter that was the top dawg in Pride and went 1-3 in the UFC(#GomiBlows).

        Or is it because Diaz defeated the great Rory Markham,or possibly the great Marcus Davis?!?

        Fact, Nate Diaz’s only impressive win was over Donald Cerrone. He is 2-2 in his last 4 fights, and the 2 he lost were VERY DECISIVE!

        Miller deserves a little better than this.

        • Triggerman99

          Yeah cool, call me a troll because you don’t like my point of view. Awesome.

          I don’t hear anybody arguing that Gomi and Markham are the reasons for a title shot. Just like you’re not arguing that the 7 or 8 scrubs that Miller beat are the reason for him getting it.
          Don’t try to play that backhanded game with me, man. It won’t work.

          • RubeKegal

            1)Charles Oliveira is not a scrub.
            2)Kamal Shalorus was undefeated till Jim Miller stopped him.
            3)Gleison Tibau is not a scrub

            1)Rory Markham is a scrub
            2)Takanori Gomi is a scrub
            3)When Diaz fought Marcus Davis, Davis was a 37 year old who lost 2 of 3
            He beat Guillard, someone you said shouldn’t earn you a title shot.

            Diaz’s tremendous Lightweight record of 8-3 also includes wins over the feorcious Alvin Robinson, Junior Assuncao, Manny Gamburyan, Kurt Pellegrino and Josh Neer.

            So basically my point is Diaz fights shyt fighters and gets respect.

            Diaz lost to Maynard, Guida and Stevenson and is 5-5 in his last 10 fights…Title worthy? I see no way how.

        • RonnieV

          Rube go suck on your dad’s d#ck once more! You make no sense! Diaz has been fighting between two weightclasses, and has more impressive victories than Miller, and has fought much tougher competition.

          • RubeKegal

            Ronnie you are a cancer who is the centerpiece for a Diaz Brothers gangbang(sexually) not like toughguy style. I named his wins and they are against CRAP!!!

  • Mario

    I see Nate pulling off another decision win ‘Diaz’ style. But this sucks if you’re Jim Miller. When it’s a situation like the Rashad/Davis thing, I understand.

    I’ll tell you this though, if Miller goes out there and destroys Diaz, it’d be hard to deny the guy a legitimate title shot. Time will tell.

  • Triggerman99

    Dana said Miller would be at least one fight away from a title shot and at most, two fights away. Some of you guys are acting like Dana said Miller is years and years away from a shot. If he does end up beating Diaz, he could be fighting for the title by this time next year. Let’s not start claiming conspiracy over this.
    I’m beginning to wonder if this is less about feeling sorry for Miller and more about just not wanting to see Diaz get a shot.

    • RubeKegal

      so it’s ok that 11-2(UFC Record should he beat Diaz) Jim Miller doesn’t get title shot but 10-5(UFC Record should Diaz beat Miller) Nate Diaz does?

      Trigger your arguments offend me and for that the rate has just gone up 10%.

      • Triggerman99

        You really got a thing for me today, don’t you? lol

        Well actually, yes; it is OK, considering Miller just got beat the fight before last. Sorry, but you can’t just sweep that under the rug.

      • RonnieV

        Rube, do us a favor and jump off a bridge, a really high bridge.

        • RubeKegal

          and Diaz is 5-5 in his last 10, your point? Ronnie loves Diaz Bros cum = fact

          • Triggerman99

            My point is that 2 of those losses are against WWs. If we go ahead and disregard his time at WW (since this is about the LW title), he would be 3-3 on a 2-fight win streak. Jim Miller is 1-1 in his last 2 fights. Diaz has a better case right now.

  • ROME

    its a close call but…
    3 str8 wins over

    Jim Miller
    Donald Cerrone
    Takanori Gomi

    is more impressive than 3 str8 wins over

    Nate Diaz
    Melvin Guillard
    and Kamal Shalorus

    idk

    • Triggerman99

      And on top of that, everyone wants to make a big deal about Miller winning 8 of 9, but Diaz is 8-3 in the UFC LW division (and 2-2 at WW with 2 finishes).

      • phrankthetank

        And miller is 10-2. What’s your point?

        • RubeKegal

          he doesnt have one, hes a doouche

          • Triggerman99

            It’s that it’s close. Not overwhelmingly in favor of Miller like it seems to be to some people. The deciding factor is recent performance.

            And is this guy really calling me a troll and a douche because he doesn’t agree with me on a freaking MMA chat board? What planet is this?

          • RubeKegal

            It’s planet fact, you are obviously a hardcore Diaz fan who has horrible points.

          • phrankthetank

            Rube is a strange one. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. All I’m saying is that I think whoever wins this fight should get their shot. If Diaz wins he beats a top lightweight in miller and gets his shot. If miller wins, he beats a top lightweight in Diaz but he doesn’t get his shot? Craziness.

          • RubeKegal

            and Ronnie is still fighting the Supreme Court saying Diaz really won vs Condit LOLOLOL!!!

          • RubeKegal

            phrank, nothing strange about calling it like it is.

            Diaz beat Cerrone, only reputable win.

  • smill0313

    Its wrestlers that miller has problems with. That being said he is probably the most under rated fighter in mma. He is an absolute beast and is gonna beat diaz no problem.

  • RubeKegal

    Nate Diaz’s only impressive win is over Donald Cerrone

  • Triggerman99

    Dude, of course I’m a Diaz fan. That’s why I’m posting on a topic about him! What kind of hateful person would I be if I commented on articles about fighters I disliked or just came on here to call people names? Do you know anybody that desperate and hateul?

    That was a rhetorical question…..

    • phrankthetank

      Well you are coming on here saying that miller isn’t worthy of a shot if he beats diaz. All I’m saying is that whoever wins should get their shot, I’m not discrediting Diaz while you are discrediting miller. I know your jest was directed at rube, but I think you’re doing a little more of posting about fighters you dislike than you seem to realize.

      • Triggerman99

        I’m pleading a case for Diaz, not $hitting on Miller. The two don’t have to go hand in hand. I don’t dislike Miller at all, but that’s what the article is about; Diaz gets a shot and Miller doesn’t. I’m just agreeing with the article’s premise. Are you assuming I don’t like Miller because i do like Diaz? That’s not true, and I haven’t hated on Miller at all. I’m sorry if it came off that way.

        • phrankthetank

          Diaz hasn’t needed someone to plead his case, no-one is saying he shouldn’t get a shot if he wins, your method of “pleading a case” is saying that he deserves it and miller doesn’t.

          • Triggerman99

            I should have phrased that better. I meant I am pleading the case of the article’s premise. I’m trying to explain why I feel Diaz doesn in fact deserve a shot at this point while Miller does not. That’s not to say Miller is a bad fighter, just that he just doesn’t deserve it as much as Diaz right now. That’s all I’m trying to get across.

          • phrankthetank

            You seem to be neglecting the fact that they haven’t fought yet. Diaz doesn’t deserve his shot unless he wins

          • RonnieV

            Phrank I totally agree! It will be a great fight. Nate’s toughest LW fights were against wrestlers who held him down. Miller is a bad ass, no matter who the winner is they should have a leg up on Pettis. When it’s all said and done, you can compare LW resumes of Nate, Miller, Pettis, Maynard, and Edgar, and athey are all pretty equal.

  • rsnowbass

    I am now stupider for reading this chain of comments = Fact

  • macgrubber

    Start a poll to see how many times triggerman99 can post in a diaz thread? We all know youd probably blow either of them if given the chance but replying to everypost where some1 says something negative about diaz is kinda queer. just try moving on you cant have either of them since they only bang each other.

    • Triggerman99

      Wow….
      Is that what happens here? If you don’t like somebody’s posts, you call them gay? That’s really awesome. Really.
      When somebody says something negative about a fighter you are a fan of, you’re supposed to respond to them in an attempt to change their opinion. That’s kind of the point of posting on these boards, isn’t it? Or is it to call people gay and say they wanna blow the fighters they are fans of? I’m beginning to wonder now.

      • phrankthetank

        Don’t justify that crap with a response

      • RonnieV

        Triggerman, I’m with you brother! The haters come out in full force for a Diaz fight. Or just a Diaz article.

        • Triggerman99

          Yeah man. I mean, I’m not saying Diaz is the best fighter to ever to walk the planet or that he’s a perfect angel or anything, but to say he sucks and to say I’m gay for him because I’m a fan?! What kind of screwed-up mentality is that?

        • RubeKegal

          and you pull out your pud every time you see a pic of Diaz on the comp

          • Triggerman99

            HAHAHA!! This guy is awesome! He proves me right with his responses better than I could ever explain it.
            Well played, sir.