Kenny Florian Calls Out Fighters Who Use Performance Enhancing Drugs

April 10, 2012
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Kenny Florian
If the subject of performance enhancing drugs comes up around former UFC title contender Kenny Florian, don’t expect a friendly response.

The one-time lightweight and featherweight title challenger tackles the subject on Tuesday night’s edition of UFC Tonight on Fuel TV when referencing the recent elevated testosterone test revealed for UFC 146 headliner Alistair Overeem.

Florian, who competed in three different UFC title bouts and was tested on numerous occasions during other fights, takes a strong stance on the issue.

“As a clean fighter, the whole issue of performance enhancing drugs in MMA really pisses me off. This sport is about honor, technique and discipline,” Florian said in the interview segment.

The heart of the matter for Florian comes down to the fact that fighters are cheating and trying to win in an unfair manner, and that’s not good for anybody.

“As a fighter, if you use PEDs, how does it feel good knowing that you won using them? Don’t do it, dummies!” Florian shouted.

In the past few months several high profile fighters have been subjected to positive drug tests either prior or after major bouts in both the UFC and Strikeforce.

Former Strikeforce featherweight women’s champion Cris ‘Cyborg’ Justino had her one year suspension upheld by the California Athletic Commission on Monday after failing a drug test in her bout last December.

Muhammed ‘King Mo’ Lawal, another former Strikeforce champion, tested positive for banned substances in January, and was suspended 9-months by the Nevada Athletic Commission.

Now Overeem will have to deal with his own positive test after a pre-fight screening revealed a 14 to 1 ratio for his testosterone levels. The highest an athlete is allowed to have in Nevada is a 6 to 1 ration.

Overeem will now appear before the Nevada Commission on April 24 to answer to the charges, as he attempts to get licensed for his UFC 146 bout against Junior Dos Santos in May.


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  • Prodigy815

    Completely agree with him

    • KBEsq

      Way to take a stand and go out on a limb on a hugely controversial issue.

      J/K =)

      I’ve never understood how it benefits fighters to use it during training and then have to wean off it for the fight. Isn’t it like any drug where you would probably feel like crap w/o it?

      This is separate from the TRT issue where fighters are actually allowed to have it during the fight too. But from what I understand, most guys who use it get it out of their system by fight time. I would think you’d be at an advantage by just not using at all.

      Can someone explain this to me?

      • Cptmats

        “I’ve never understood how it benefits fighters to use it during training and then have to wean off it for the fight.”

        Because the fight is the easy part the twelve weeks of hell leading up to it is what they would be using ped’s for !

        • Lesnardo

          Kenny “Ken-Flo” Florian will never be a top fighter.

          He should watch his back. The Reem will get him and make him his girlfriend.

          • RubeKegal

            And youll be a top poster on mmaweekly forums!!!

            forum junkie talking crap about top level fighter. LMAO

      • Anthony

        Ok, most oral anabolics ,and water based injectables clear the system in 4 days or less. With drugs like HGH ,there is no way to test for it, therefore the athletes can use it year round w/ no legal ramification. When coming off fast acting anabolics/testosterones(those mentioned above) the strength/size building effects long outlast the 4 day grace period required to pass the test. Its a win-win for athletes looking for an advantage, but still having a drug test to pass. As far as withdrawl from these drugs inside the four day period needed to pass your screen, there simply is none–Now if the athlete chose to stay off the anabolics for a period of 6 weeks or longer , his size/strength gains would deminish unless he/she used other agents to maintain the gains. Said agents are an antiaromitase like Tomoxifen(keeps estrogen level from spiking off cycle), the HGH also helps solidify gains and the athlete would also require HCG(human corianic gonadotrophen) which would restart the testies enabling them to produce testosterone once again . The endocrine system works on a loop feedback–another words, if you are artificially adding testosterone to the body(all steroids are nothing more then synthetic forms of testosterone), the bodies own production of testosterone ceases to work–thats why testicular atrophy(your nuts shrink) is a side effect–if the gonads arent being asked to produce testosterone they get smaller in size .-I hope this is understandable and helps answer your question KBEsq–if you have any other questions, id be happy to help-Tony

  • http://www.facebook.com/yannick.messaoud yannickmessaoud

    Drugs are part of the game, its what it is, if your $$$ depends on it, then you will cheat to get the egde.

    Sad but that is what it is. I am sure that most fighters use steroids or PED but they are smart not to get cought

    • bjjjay

      Does that mean we have to just except it though? And is it using steroids in MMA a slap in the face to martial arts? I dont think we should just except it as well there trying to get an edge to make a living. Just cuzz there athletes dosnt mean they should make a living through illegal means, they should make there money the way we all do through legit work.

  • MaritalArtist

    Sad but true. If you’re juiced up you’ll train harder and heal faster. Then you go off the stuff in time to get under 6:1. Sad but that’s how it is. The alternative is, completely ban them…. Out for life. But then how are you going to get them to ban trt for people who actually need it?

  • trevor

    Maybe if Florian hit the roids he could win a fight! Where is he fighting next @ 95lbs.

    • Lesnardo

      I agree.

      Kenny “Ken-Flo” Florian should worry about himself. No one cares about him. He is just a small skinny middle-of-the-pack guy that no one will remember in 5 years from now.

      I don’t agree with Reem taking drugs. But I don’t like Florian as a commentator.

    • TKD

      He will develop a midget MMA dicision and drop enough weight to get his ass kicked there too!

      • TKD

        Sorry, I meant division!

        • Lesnardo

          I feel sorry for dudes like Kenny “Ken-Flo” Florian and Stephan Bonnar. They can win fights so they resort to Dana nuthugging to make a living.

          • TKD

            Sadly for us fans, it actually works! Those two guys are about as useless to the UFC as I am, yet they keep getting fights.

  • mmachoman

    I say that if two guys in the same weight class test positive and are fairly close to each other in rankings, make them fight each other.

    • Lesnardo

      Lol! The Cheater’s/Doper’s division.

      Too bad Kenny “Ken-Flo” Florian will never be champion in any weight class even if he resorts to PEDs.

  • TKD

    Kenny Florian is a serious douche! After several failed runs (a few too many chances in my opinion) at the title, he can’t get any attention other than to get in the middle of this situation. He is such a waste of time.

    By the way, his 2nd career choice as a commentator is a joke too. Fade away Kenny…Fade away!

  • omcclave

    Why does everyone hate kenny florian? what did this guy do to be shit on so badly. Hes right about this situation and being a top tier college graduate and having to fight title fights against a juiced out sean sherk, the baddest dude ever BJ Penn and the buzz saw that is jose aldo somehow makes him middle tier. People should embrace Kenny, Hes a guy who easily could have gone the corporate route but instead followed his dreams. Side note no one needs TRT. When you get older you lose testosterone and your not as good anymore its natural. That is why people retire because they get old. Stop telling me late 20’s and early 30’s cage fighters need it, shit is the stupidest excuse I have ever heard.

    • bjjjay

      100% agree with you

      • Lesnardo

        “People should embrace Kenny, Hes a guy who easily could have gone the corporate route but instead followed his dreams.”

        Dude a random degree from a middle-of-the-pack school like Boston College is not going to get you “corporate” jobs, unless you are calling any desk job a corporate job. He definitely can’t get wallstreet-ish jobs with those credentials. But yeah, he could have been a sales manager at Costco.

        In any case, Kenny “Ken-Flo” Florian and Stephan Bonnar are annoying nobodies.

    • Lesnardo

      “People should embrace Kenny, Hes a guy who easily could have gone the corporate route but instead followed his dreams.”

      Dude a random degree from a middle-of-the-pack school like Boston College is not going to get you “corporate” jobs, unless you are calling any desk job a corporate job. He definitely can’t get wallstreet-ish jobs with those credentials. But yeah, he could have been a sales manager at Costco.

      In any case, Kenny “Ken-Flo” Florian and Stephan Bonnar are ****ing annoying nobodies.

      • tsszaltax

        Says the annoying nobody. You can talk all you want to about how bad, annoying and how much Florian and Bonnar are failures but I bet my life on it if they never made another penny in their lives you’d never make as much as they have to this day. And talk all you want to about how bad of fighters they are and I again bet my life they’d kick the hell out of you in an octagon. I cant stand people like you.

  • airborne83

    Dang guys why all the Ken-Flo hate? This is in no way meant to be disrespectful to Kenny, but for being probably the least naturally gifted athlete in whichever weight class he chooses to fight in…the man has more than made up for his lack if natural talent with technique, hard training and huge heart. He rode his NATURAL (non PED enhanced) talent further than anyone would’ve ever expected. 3 times he fought for the title, some
    of these ‘roiders who used the juice AND probably have more natural talent, won’t even fight in a #1 contender match much less fight for the strap …..not bad for someone who could pass for a high school science teacher if you didn’t know any better. I’m sure he has some resentment and animosity built up towards the men who used steroids to enhance the efficiency of their training camps…especially those that call themselves champions and have won titles. I’d feel the same if it were me. He deserves and has earned respect; which a few of you are failing to recognize.

  • stringbender

    I could not agree more. If you think Ken-Flo is at best a mid-level figther then you dont know crap about MMA. No he was not the pound for pound best in the world nor did ever win a title. But he is a very smart talented fighter that has beaten some of the best MMA has to offer in his divisons. And Bonner? He is on half of the team that made the UFC what it is today along with Griffin. He will never be a champion but what some idiots dont know is he is in the top 3 or 4 for take downs in the history of the UFC. So get some knowledge before you post stupid comments.

  • omcclave

    Who is This idiot saying BC is a middle of road school for bagging groceries at costco. I hope you know its a top 30 school in the US. And the biggest kicker is you say he couldnt get a wall street job, yet I work at a hedge fun and the guy who works in my office played soccer with Kenny in college. Dude if you don’t know what your talking about you can’t comment on threads you will get owned. Stop trolling on threads and go back to school you idiot.