Josh Koscheck Felt He Won Split Decision Against Johny Hendricks

May 6, 2012
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Josh Koscheck lost a razor-thin split decision to top welterweight contender Johny Hendricks at UFC on Fox 3 on Saturday night.  The win furthered Hendricks up the ladder to be next in line to potentially fight the winner of Georges St-Pierre vs. Carlos Condit, but Koscheck really didn’t feel like he lost the fight.

Some pundits felt that the 35-year-old’s age and number of wars he’s been in would be a factor in New Jersey, but that wasn’t the case.  While Koscheck may not have gotten the judges’ nod, it was a very hard fight to score and that’s why the fight ended with the judges in disagreement.

In the first round, Koscheck had some strong moments early on landing kicks and caused Hendricks to wince his right eye in pain.  And in the third round, clearly Koscheck scored the biggest takedown of the fight, so he feels like he earned the decision over Hendricks.

“I’m not one to ever (expletive) about decisions,” Koscheck said at the UFC on Fox 3 post-fight press conference.  “I thought I won the first and the third, but apparently the judges saw different.  It was a good fight.  I felt like I ended the fight on top. It is what it is.  I live to fight another day.”

Koscheck is ready for whatever is next. He’s not going to sit here and cry about a decision, when he knows he should’ve finished the fight.  And like the saying goes in combat sports, “you can’t ever leave it to the judges.”

“He’s a good fighter.  He won tonight. I’m not going to sit here and (expletive) and cry about a decision.  I should’ve finished the fight.  When it goes to the judges, I guess you have to have luck on your side, and I guess he had luck on his side.  He won the fight.”


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  • MrAdidas

    I thought Koscheck had won the fight as well. Kos won the 1st & 3rd Rounds! I’m getting real sick & tired of these “boxing judges” incompetence UFC event after UFC event. It’s giving the UFC/MMA a black eye that just wont go away. One of these days theres going to be a decision that was so off base & so god awful that the UFC will be “forced” to actually do something about this farce. Time for the UFC to spend some money on a (2 week or 2 month) clinic about what judges should be looking for & how to award pts, whether it be standing, a fighter fighting off his back or if he’s in full guard etc.

    Retired fighters such as … Couture, Liddell, Bas Reuten & soon to be retired Tito Ortiz & a couple of refs (Big John, Herb Dean etc.), should be the people the UFC ask to educate the moron judges the boxing commission have judging MMA fights/events.

    ** Why this hasnt happened yet, is beyond me!

    • MikeMc1983

      I think the UFC hasn’t put the refs through classes because I don’t believe they have that authority. At least in the regulated states anyhow. The commissions qualify the refs. Not the UFC.

      That completely disturbing bad decision your talking about has already happened. It was bisbing vs. hamil. I know it’s been awhile, but it was by far the most absurd. I believe that was in Europe as well.

      But your right about one thing. If it was a bigger fight maybe it would have been a bigger deal. However, it seems like the bigger fights have the better/more experienced refs/judges.

      • MrAdidas

        Yeah you are right, it is the commission who regulates the judges and what not, though the UFC should start to at least lobby for a diff system of rules for judging MMA fights, as opposed to having boxing judges scoring MMA fights with a boxing “background”/mentality.

        I can give you about 20 “bad decisions” … Rua Vs Lyoto 1 – Britz Vs. Lil Nog – Kampmann Vs Shields – Sanchez Vs Kampmann etc. there was a fight in Japan that Dana ended up paying the guy who lost his win bonus, Dana has done that several times b/c of god awful judging!

  • phrankthetank

    Yea, I had koscheck for 1 and 3 and 2 was a toss up. those fight metric stats are deceptive tho, Hendricks lands 12 knees to the thigh and koscheck railed him with 7 big right hands and the strikes are 25 to 11 for Hendricks.

    • TandmWarElephant

      Yea I agree I saw it for Kos but man the 2nd and 3rd Hendricks landed BOMBS whether they really hurt Kos or not doesn’t matter they were still BOMbs ha.. I’m not disappointed in the decision just the fact that Kos lost.. it honestly could have gone either way

      • phrankthetank

        Yea, the stats I’m really referring to were shown in the 1st. Hendricks did throw a lot of heavy leather later on.

        • TandmWarElephant

          I know exactly what your talking about as far as the stats, I have noticed though, that they tend to show different stats, that one was total strikes, in the past I’ve have seen it say Ground strikes, and I think tonight in one of the fights i saw Kicks or something so as far as that little stat box I think its one of those things you actually got to pay attention too or else yea it could be deceiving..

  • http://www.bloodyfists.net/forums/index.php SHORT_BUS

    I scored it for Koscheck with him winning rounds 1 + 3. Was a close fight so you can’t really scream robbery though.

    • phrankthetank

      True enough, but it seems most people are scoring it for koscheck, there must be something to it.

  • WhiteboyGBJJ

    Damage should be a category. Koscheck looked like the dude from Mask with Cher. Power punches and punches connected were Hendricks.

    • MikeMc1983

      Yeah, but there are some guys who just don’t show damage. Perceived damage, and true damage are sometimes far off. Before the Diaz fight, bj penn finished every fight looking the same as when he came in. Where as guys like Forrest get hit with a jab and they look like they’ve been hit by a train.

      • JayeP1976

        DAMAGE, DAMAGE, DAMAGE

        THAT’S THE #1 CRITERIA FOR JUDGING FIGHTS.
        Hendricks caused more damage, period. It was a close fight, but I had hendricks winning due to damage and volume of power punches landed.

        • phrankthetank

          Hi new guy, fights are scored one rd at a time, 1st round koscheck landed a ton of solid power punches, 2nd and 3rd Hendricks did, but the last 3 minutes of the 3rd rd was all koscheck pounding on Hendricks. Yes, Hendricks landed 5 more significant strikes over the course of the fight, but koscheck controlled the cage and landed takedowns.

          • JayeP1976

            “Hi new guy”– that’s hilarious since I’ve probably been coming to this site before you (Since 07). “Fights are scored one round at a time”–Thanks for pointing that out Capt. Obvious. “Rd. 3 ended with Kos pounding on Hendricks”–Pounding???? Let’s just call it keeping busy, nobody was getting pounded on “old guy”. Kos was controlling the cage??? That’s laughable. Yeah he was controlling his right orbital directly into Johnny’s left hand… And also, takedowns don’t mean s#$t unless you do something with them…..

          • JayeP1976

            Also, that was karma comin’ back and biting Kos in the ass for that “gift” decision he got over Mike Pierce. He’s basically lost 2 in a row

          • RubeKegal

            Pierce did not win that fight….I was looking for reasons to say Pierce won, but he didn’t. Rogan just pulled a typical Rogan and amateurs take the bait.

          • phrankthetank

            Since 07? Wow, you should probably stick to lurking like you have been for 5 years now.

          • JayeP1976

            @phrankthetank Next time try and come with a intelligent, coherent answer instead acting butthurt, Ok tough guy??

        • MikeMc1983

          I understand damage matters. But damage is more than who’s face looks worse. This isn’t street fighter 2. We don’t have energy meters. It’s hard to figure out who took more damage in a fight because guys don’t show it the same.

          Good example. Had silva vs. sonnen ended at the 4th rd would you give the fight to silva? Silva didn’t look very bad at all. Sonnen however had cuts and swelling.

          Thats why earlier I said there’s a difference between true damage, and perceived damage. Just because a guy looks worse doesnt mean he lost.
          Think of having to figure out internal damage. You just can’t judge a fight that way because you never know how much damage a guys has actually taken.

          Ps. I know sonnen was winning, but it wasn’t just that Anderson doesn’t show much damage; it’s also that sonnen didn’t do much soft tissue damage.
          Just had to through it in. ;)

  • AdamBianski

    What were you people watching Hendricks landed more strikes in the first rd and took him down. It was pretty easy to call I thought. If you want to say KOS wobbled him in the first ok that is fine, a wobble is not a knock down.
    POINTS that is how you win a decision Hendricks scored more in the first two. That is why he won.

    • Lesnardo

      I scored it for Hendricks as well.

      But people are probably saying that Kos won the first round because he was teeing off on Hendricks against the cage, after the eye poke. And in the third round Kos got a takedown. But he really didn’t do anything with it other than getting positions and throwing rabbit punches from side mount.

    • KBEsq

      I agree with Adam. Maybe I need to go back and watch the fight round by round with who is winning in mind (which I hardly ever do when I’m enjoying a fight), but as I was watching it, it just seemed like Hendrix was landing over and over and over again.

      Kos had a good first, no doubt, but the take downs meant nothing. I’m in the camp that thinks a take down shouldn’t be given points just in and of itself.

      Maybe I need to watch it again, but I thought Hendrix did more damage (and I’m not saying that by looking at Kos’ face – I’m saying that based upon just what I remember from the fight and Hendrix landing so much).

  • innovator

    I think Hendricks squeaked it out. Where I see a big problem with judging is on those take downs where the fighter on top does not really do anything damage wise or put the other guy in a submission attempt. Just because he is on top for the last 90 seconds of a round should not win him the round. That’s just my opinion on that though. MMA is hard to score in that way. Never leave it to the judges!

  • 310lynnVahine

    Josh is right, he showed way more aggression and had more take downs. That was a close fight but once again he just wasn’t the judges favorite for the night.

  • adam1848

    Rounds 1&3 Kos. On a half point scoring system I see this fight

    1) 10-9.5 Kos
    2) 10-9.5 Hendricks
    3) 10-9 Kos

    I don’t like Kos… love to see him lose, but in my opinion he won that fight.

    • RubeKegal

      I had it as such

      1) 10-9.72 Hendricks
      2) 10-9.26 Hendricks
      3) 10-9.13 Kos

      Based on double 2 plus infinity times quadratic formula over hyperbola, Hendricks won this fight.

      Now on a serious note, the “Half point scoring system” can suck my grundle.

  • D-rail

    Kosh vs Rory MC Donald

    • MrAdidas

      WTF? Why b/c the fight makes absolutely no sense? Kos lost his last fight, while Rory has won his last 3 I think. Now how in the hell does that make any sense? Rory Vs Hendricks! I guarantee you Rory would hurt Hendricks & hurt him bad. Rory reminds me of Jon Jones when he started. Dana didnt want to throw Jones Vs. the “sharks” b/c he won a few fights Vs decent fighters, but Jones proved he could hang with anyone at LHW & I think Rory is the same thing @ WW. Jones is 24, Rory is still 22 (turns 23 this summer).

  • http://www.facebook.com/tommyblingshyne thomasabrams

    i was rooting for big rig and was glad he won, but i couldnt help think koscheck won rounds 1 and 3…i think its better for the division that hendricks won because koscheck winning just derails another new title contender…not like GSP v. Kos III will ever happen again nor would anyone ever want to see it…but i still felt like he got away w/ one…wouldnt mind seeing hendricks v. kampmann/ellenberger winner for # 1 contender if timing allows for it…its all contingent upon when gsp v. condit happens…

  • Iamrozylo

    Im happy Hendricks won, but he looked like an out of shape truck driver. He needs to step up if he wants to even entertain the idea of giving GSP or Condit a run.
    As for judging… I have judged fights, and damage scores more. I’m not talking about bloodied or bruised faces either. I’m talking significant strikes. It’s really hard to gauge damage on tv. When you sit ringside you get a different perspective.

  • http://www.facebook.com/yannick.messaoud yannickmessaoud

    Kos won that fight hands down. Its not the first time UFC screws up in the judging cards.

  • rsnowbass

    One fighter looked extremely confident and under control of the fight no matter where it went for the most part…another fighter looked more gassed and desperate. Yes…desperate and almost flailing punches.

    You do the math.

    BAD DECISION.

    Cheers!

  • zacharydetal

    It wasn’t a bad decision. Some of you are acting like it was a complete robbery. Hendricks landed the harder shots and did more damage. I had him winning rounds 1 & 2, but if Kos got the first round I don’t think that would of been completely out of line. Either way it was a great fight.

    • rsnowbass

      It by no means was a complete robbery…granted.

      Great fight? Not really. Close fight…yes.

      • MrAdidas

        Agreed, it was not a “great fight” is was a good close fight!

  • zacharydetal

    Yeah you’re right not a great fight. I guess I was comparing it to Koschecks last fight against Mike Peirce. That was boring.

  • z999

    Non-title fights should be five 3-minute rounds. More scoring to base a decision on.