Is Ronda Rousey the New Chuck Liddell?

April 18, 2014
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Ronda Rousey and Chuck LiddellWhy did Alexis Davis get the next shot at UFC women’s bantamweight champion Ronda Rousey?

Because Ronda Rousey wants to fight. It’s as simple as that.

At least, it is in the world of UFC president Dana White.

“Because Ronda called me and said, ‘I wanna fight,’” White said following Wednesday night’s The Ultimate Fighter Nations press conference, answering the questions of why Davis. “Ronda is my new Chuck Liddell. She will fight anybody, anywhere, anytime. She wants to stay busy. She wants to keep fighting.”

Not that White would tell his champion no, but it’s not like he has much of a choice.

“You tell her she can’t fight, she’ll say ‘(Expletive) you! I wanna fight.’ She wants to fight. She’ll fight back-to-back. She’ll fight on 24 hours notice. She’s the new Chuck Liddell.”

Cat Zingano was supposed to be next up for Rousey, but Zingano is still out of commission, dealing with the fallout from multiple knee injuries and the death of her husband.

Gina Carano has been another highly talked about option, but she’s out promoting her latest movie. White says Carano wants to fight, but they are still in the midst of ongoing negotiations with the former Strikeforce champion.

In the meantime, Rousey is making movies, but wants to fight this summer, plain and simple.

“She’s out doing so many movies right now, she doesn’t have a second to herself, (but) she wants to fight. She wants to fight this summer. She’s probably gonna want to fight again right after that too,” said White.

“That’s how Chuck Liddell was, and that’s the way a lot of these guys are, you can’t stop them. At the end of the day, a grown man or woman is gonna do what they want.”

And Rousey wants to fight.

Where will that get her? Well, if she is the next Chuck Liddell, it’ll eventually get her into the UFC Hall of Fame… although that’s probably already a lock.

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  • Maddawgmar

    Okay let the hate flow, from all you haters

  • Mark McDowall

    I appreciate Rousey wanting to fight…Most likely for financial reasons…but the new Chuck Lidell….really? Rouse is fighting no one’s because the womens division is full of #3 & #4 contenders…no real definitive #1 contenders. The UFC is throwing anyone at her to keep her busy….If your champ is entertaining non title “legends” fights it pretty much proves that there isn’t much of a division for her.

    • jfisch

      True but it’s not her fault she is so much better than the rest of the division. And you have to respect the fact that she’s willing to continue putting her title on the line instead of sitting back and waiting for a true #1. And I doubt financial reasons are much of a concern anymore with her movie deals and sponsorship deals.

      • Mark McDowall

        Is she that good…or is the division that weak?? I think it’s slightly more of a weak division than her being that great.

        • Maddawgmar

          No she is that good. If Rousey wasn’t there we would be talking about Kaufman or McMann, possibly Tate and how they wouldn’t go up in weight to challenge Cyborg. But Rousey is so far ahead and better than any woman of the division in or out of the UFC. That’s why everyone is bîtching about her not going up to a non existent weight class (in the UFC) to fight Cy’roid’.

          • Maddawgmar

            Because there is no other Talent at 135 but in the UFC. Why hasn’t Cyborg, who has everything to prove, gone to the UFC to fight the best??? It’s a two way street sweetheart.

          • Terra_Ryzing

            Chuck didn’t go to other promotions to prove he was the best. He entered the Pride Light Heavyweight tournament because Dana told him to because he was trying to get Silva to fight in the UFC, and he was beaten by Rampage Jackson.

          • AXE MURDERER

            I think UfC needs to pump up the #1 contender fights for Rousey. Like #1 Cat vs #2 Davis fight. The Mcmann fight was stopped early so bring over Lauren Murphy and have them fight for the next shot. Cyborg vs Holm for the next shot or what ever? Just make sure its a true #1 contender that earned the fight!

    • AXE MURDERER

      Ya a new Chuck is knida lame. But 135 is the deepest in wmma that’s why cyborg & carrono talking about cutting down, and some 125ers moving up. With fighters like Lauren Murphy (8-0), Holy Holm (7-0), Rin Nakai (15-0-1), Larisa Pacheco (10-0) all top 135ers in other org. Trying to get to the ufc cuz its the $ division.

      • Mark McDowall

        I agree…but if they wont be in the cage with Rousey who cares.
        Too many weird reasons why the top women aren’t in the UFC. Holms manager was difficult in the negotiations…Cyborg was with Tito and he was a dumbass and made her leave…Just seems too convinient that the 2 top threats to her wont be signed any time soon.

        • AXE MURDERER

          I think it will happen at some point. Cyborg & holm i think still have some contract obligations. & cyborg dropping to 135 to face Murphy for the Invicta belt. If they fulfill them & win out, then the hype train to get them to the ufc would grow. So maybe in a year we get those fights in the ufc? I hope they dont miss the boat!

  • Seth

    In case of fighting legacy – no where near. But in case of that “rockstar/celebrity” status, sure. She’s as popular and as big for media as Chuck was, I don’t see anything wrong with comparing those two in that matter. Again, for haters who lack a skill to read – I do not mean their fighting legacy being compared.

    • AXE MURDERER

      I’ll buy that..

  • Rob

    You must have got into MMA 4 years ago…

    • Kenny Powers

      More like 4 minutes.

  • Shartnado2, the Sloppy One

    Uh no. Chuck wanted the hardest fights and kept fighting even when he was getting the worst of it. Chuck was also likeable and classy. The exact opposite of Ronda. Ronda ducks Cyborg (just like Tito ducked Chuck) and the UFC picks the easiest title fights they can for her. Chuck made the TUF show better, Ronda made it worse. And btw Chuck had the best stand up, Rhonda HAS NONE!!! Im insulted they would even compare Chuck to that trailer park Tonya Harding trash.

    • Rob

      Yeaaah. Well said. Win or Lose, the afterparty was somewhere. She’s ducking Cyborg, Chuck ducked no one. haters gonna hate, but todas MMA fan doesn’t go back to Severn, Gracie, Shamrock, Ortiz, Randy, CABBAGE!! (LOL) Liddell, etc…

    • Terra_Ryzing

      Ronda ducks no one. Cyborg had the chance to fight Ronda but, instead, asked for her release to fight anywhere Ronda wasn’t. And easy fights? Sara Mcmann, Olympic Silver Medalist in wrestling and undefeated, until she faced Ronda, and Miesha Tate, Strikeforce World champion. How are those easy fights? Now I’ll admit Ronda is a bitch but she’s also the best female fighter alive.

  • uncle

    Cyborg is the new Chuck Liddell

    • Guest

      OK…Cool…Elaborate.

    • Maddawgmar

      Only if your comparing looks…

    • Rob

      Ok, Cool. Please, Elaborate. (If you have to, which is fine…look that word up on google and respond)

      • uncle

        Cyborg is a ruthless finisher like Chuck
        not Ronda

        • Maddawgmar

          Yeah and Cyborg uses steroids like Chuck, and picks a fight with people in lower weight classes like Chuck. About the only thing they do have in common is they both have nuts.

          • uncle

            Poor Ronda kinda emotional

        • Terra_Ryzing

          Um, Ronda’s finished every one of her fights.

          • uncle

            you’re missing the point, her wins
            are not KO’s like Chuck

          • Seth

            So what? It takes some skill to get a submission, while even Matt Serra could land a lucky KO Punch against GSP. Submission > KO, when it comes to which way of winning is more dominant.

          • uncle

            Ronda’s armbar wins are very
            impressive, case and point her
            skillset is not a striker like chuck
            just like chuck is not a grappler
            like Ronda, and I hope you know
            there is a big difference between
            being lucky ,and someone being
            a elite striker, someone who lands
            a lucky punch is not considered a dangerous finisher so go find another emotional outlet conversation over

          • Seth

            I didn’t say that lucky puncher is elite striker. You look at fights like Pettis/Cerrone – thats striking show that proofs clearly, that Anthony is elite striker. There was nothing lucky about that kick, it was perfectly timed and placed. But its RARE (though it happens) to get a lucky submission comparable to lucky punch landed by Serra on GSP. That was pure luck. When it comes to submissions, only thing I can think of like that is when you get taken down and your opp gives you his neck for Guillotine. Then its lucky submission. But other way, its just skills, knowledge and experienced combined that allows you to set submission up and finish it.

            Now, you made a point I meant – Rousey is no where near to be Chuck Liddel-type striker. But as you said, neither is Chuck a grappler at Rousey level. Both of them had that one weapon that was feared and worked so many times.

            Reason why I wrote what I wrote is simple – someone here used an argument that “her wins aren’t KOs like Chuck’s”. Which is retarded as hell. So what she didn’t knock those girls out? She broke and injured a few arms and she did it WHILE EVERYONE KNEW WHAT SHE WILL DO. It wasn’t like people were thinking “Oh, I wonder what Rousey will do in her next fight”. We knew what she will do. She will come in, take you for a ride, take a mount/side mount/back mount whatever she wanted, then she will break your arm in half.

            Only question there ever was for her fights, was simple “WHEN she will force her opponent to tap out?”. Similar with Chuck, it wasn’t “Im curious what he will do against that guy” it was “Im curious how long that dude will survive before Chuck will put his lights out”

            By any means I didn’t mean to insult any striker, by saying that lucky punch puts you up there as elite striker. I just said that Rousey’s submissions are as dominant and as legit, as Chuck’s knockouts.

          • aaron gustaveson

            You can always tell a stupid —-, they only respect fighters that plant their feet and take turns bashing each other in the face.

    • aaron gustaveson

      Don’t besmirch Chuck like that, he wasn’t a famous cheater.

  • classless bitch

    no.chuck knows how to throw a punch and knock ppl out.. you should be backhanded for comparing the two..

  • reebkk

    “She will fight anybody, anywhere, anytime.” except Cyborg.

    • Ol’ Rooter

      135, treebkk, 135.

    • Terra_Ryzing

      She’s more than willing to fight Cyborg. Cyborgs the one than ran away, not Ronda. When, and if Cyborg is willing to get off the steroids and have a fair fight, she know where Ronda is.

  • Joe

    She didn’t duck Cyborg, Cyborg listened to Tito and asked for her UFC release. If she had sung her current toon of I’ll make 135 and beat her ass that fight would have already happened. Rhonda who by the way comes off as a total bitch has not turned down Cyborg, she did however say if she wants a fight she has to do it at Rhonda’s weight.

  • uncle

    Why are they comparing chuck with a chick? you don’t
    get the same excitement watching her fights maybe
    if she was topless

  • Baller31

    Yep, they’re both big, ugly, and one dimensional

    • aaron gustaveson

      Big & Ugly, are you a woman?

  • Kenny Powers

    No.

  • RubeKegal@yahoo.com

    Dear Ken Pishna, this article is terrible, the end.

  • brad king

    she fight carmouche anytime also, guareenteed win! Cyborg an opponent who will hurt her, RR and DW continue to make excuses for not taking that contest at any weight.This article a joke, to keep RR relevant!

    • Aimed With “V”

      Not sure why Rousey should take a contest at ANY weight against a fighter ABOVE her weight division, who has obviously taken PEDs?

      Rousey is one of the most relevant mixed martial artists right now, if not THE.
      This article surely does not change anything about her relevance, and neither do haters in the comments section.

      • Seth

        She should, because haters say so. Legit, right? They don’t care that it is Cryborg who does EVERYTHING she can to avoid fighting Rousey. If Cryborg wants this fight so badly, then she should drop roids a while ago, don’t care about muay thai fights in which she gets destroyed and right now we would talk about her MMA Bantamweight debut for Invicta. But no – Cryborg prefers to Cry about UFC being bad and not giving her opportunity to fight Ronda. While CRYBORG was the one who asked to be released from the UFC, after advice from her brilliant manager.

        Cryborg ran away from the UFC – place where Ronda was and still is – so how is Rousey ducking her?

        • Seth

          She WAS in the UFC, when Strikeforce was merged. UFC said that they will pay her and she will be UFC fighter, but for now will get a few fights in Invicta, where she won’t have to wait long for a fight. But she and her manager asked for release from her UFC contract. So…yeah, it’s kinda her fault that she’s not in the UFC.

          • Seth

            So what she didn’t fought at 135? Maybe time to drop roids and drop weight? Why CHAMPION has to do everything for challenger? If Cryborg wants a shot at champion, she has to be able to receive title shot. Dana didn’t want to pay her? Thats another bs. Dana said that he will pay her Invicta bills while she’s there, but she and Tito said no and signed with Invicta for less money. Also, it was Tito’s stupidity when they said that if she make 135, she would die. So…its not Dana’s fault for not signing a fighter for 1 fight – since there is no 145lbs division and she won’t have a place to fight in the UFC, if you hater say she fights at 145 only – while she can die because of that fight. Thank Tito for that.

          • Seth

            First of all – UFC has no buisness in making 145lbs fight, since they don’t have that division.

            Second of all, go back and read articles about it – that was a deal, Cryborg is UFC fighter, she fights in Invicta and UFC covers all the expenses related to her. It was meant to give her something to do, while UFC had no 145lbs division but they wanted to keep her as she was one of the top female fighters. They wanted to have her under the contract and figure out how to put her on the card.

            And yes – Rousey has no buisness in fighting outside the weight class she dominates at the moment. Its like saying Anthony Pettis should move up to 170 if Hendricks would start talking trash to him. Oww…sorry, Hendricks is legit best fighter at his weight.

            Point is if Cryborg had her chance to be UFC fighter and she blew it. So now she has to agree to UFC’s terms.

            In case you still refuses to realize that, here are articles that would help you understand that you have no idea what you are talking about

            http://www.cagedinsider.com/ufc/dana-white-would-have-paid-all-the-bills-for-hercyborg-to-fight-in-invicta/

            http://www.mmamania.com/2013/2/18/4001488/dana-white-ufc-invicta-deal-declined-tito-ortiz-management-female-mma

            http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/news/435899/White-Cyborg-could-have-fought-in-Invicta-AND-been-in-UFC/

          • Seth

            Reason 3 and 5 are exact reason – or at least ask for exact reasons why it can’t happen.

            This fight HAS to have a meaning. Why they couldn’t make that fight right off the bat? Because they had to establish the division first. They had to introduce Female MMA to UFC audience with a few smaller fights first. Rousey/Cryborg being first fight EVER in UFC female divisions wouldnt make much of a buzz, as usual John that watches UFC would have no idea what’s going on.

            Now, we have a few solid female fights, division is established, 115pounders are about to join UFC female world – so now we can talk about doing Rousey/Cryborg. But this fight has to mean something in UFC universe. Which means it HAS to be a title fight.Catchweight would be good idea for Pettis and Aldo – 2 champions in their division, meeting half way. But in UFC, Cryborg isn’t a champion. She would a top contender. Which means it has to happen at 135. Maybe Rouset feels better at 135 than she felt at 145? DJ had problems at 135 too, since he dropped to 125 he’s way better. Same goes for a few other guys. Same goes for Edgar, same goes for DC at LHW and the list goes on and on. If she decided to fight at 135 and she conquered the world at that weight – why SHE would move up? What she has to prove?

            People say that Cryborg was caught once and she’s clean since then. But that mistake costed her everything she worked for her entire career. It’s not easy to gain respect and top position – but its so easy to lose it. Is Cryborg best female fighter now? Not in my opinion. She missed a year of action and a lot of girls leapfrogged over her. She came back and she earned IFC title, which puts her back near the top. But THE TOP is Rousey’s now. You want it back? Go and beat current P4P best fighter. She already said a few times that she is capable of making 135lbs, she said it would take her a few months but she can do it. So my advice is – since you said you can agree to UFC’s terms, go and do it, instead b—-ing and whinning about how world is unfair. Was if fair when she was beating other girls with PEDs and roids? Karma is a b–ch, isn’t she?

          • Seth

            Dana stated long time ago – let’s see if she can make 135. Aldo can say he can make 125 if they give him title fight with DJ – it means s–t. Let her make 135 and fight at 135 to see if she physically can do it – all the hate on side now, she’s one, big girl. Imagine situation when they give her title fight tomorrow, she comes at scale…at 140. or 138. Or something like that. Dana said, let her make 135 and fight once or twice in Invicta just to see if that’s safe for her and if she can do it, also how she will fight at 135. We know that new weight most of the times changes fighters. Since she said she will make it – why we are even arguing here then? I told you before that she said it, so now let’s wait for results and see if she CAN make it. Which at this point – I highly doubt she can do.

          • Seth

            Yeah, because its all on Rousey. She forced Cryborg to take roids for so many years. She was the one who asked UFC to release her, while UFC said they will pay for her fights in Invicta. And yeah – Rousey said that Cryborg would die if she try to make 135.
            Legit.

            Get down to earth. Cryborg WAS in the UFC. She HAD a chance to be lined up with Rousey, but CRYBORG decided to leave UFC with her idiotic manager. SHE said that she would die if she try to make 135. So saying “its all Rousey” is sooooo pathetic and idiotic…

          • Guest

            ahahahahahahahahahahahaha your the idiot whose argument is so weak your making up statements and claiming I said them, I blame Dana and rousey for ducking Cyborg. After all Dana used to own her contract and never offered her a reasonable fight. Rousey is Dana’s favorite fighter, he would make it happen if she wanted it to happen, especially if he was willing to sign Carano(a retired fighter with half the popularity or skills of Cyborg) to fight her, since the cyborg fight would be way bigger. It’s ridiculous to blame Cyborg for not fighting in the UFC when the UFC doesnt have a womens 145 divison! Whose she gonna fight herself? You have not provided a single legitimate reason why they couldn’t have had a non-title catchweight fight? Or why the UFC couldnt send her to Envicta to fight for Cyborgs belt! after all Ronda’s original weight class was 145, she walks around at 152 so she cant use size or wright class as an excuse after all she had no problem fighting olympic judo at 155 or fighting men in the gym, or talking bout how she would destroy Mayweather, so I fail to see why cant she fight cyborg at 145? Yeah Cyborg fucked up and followed bad advice but she showed she wants the fight by continually saying she wants to fight her, firing tito and dropping to 135 While even you must admit Ronda has done everything in her power to prevent the fight from happening(starting by dropping to 135 to duck her in strikeforce when they were both competing at 145), while trying to do everything to delegitimize justino as a opponent, and making excuses not to fight her, when anyone who follows womens mma knows shes one of the best female fighters in the world and the biggest(some believe only) threat to Rousey in the current ufc womens roster.

          • Seth

            “You dont see it being ridiculous to blame Cyborg for not fighting in the
            UFC when the UFC doesnt have a womens 145 divison! Whose she gonna
            fight herself?”

            That’s exact reason why this fight makes no sense at 145. UFC doesn’t have that division, so what’s the point in signing Cryborg for 1 fight deal, since there is no one else for her to fight there in division that doesn’t even exist?

            If she wants do fight so badly, she should prove it. Instead of talking s–t, she should drop roids, drop to 135 and prove she is still relevant, even at 135lbs. And its easy to prove with a fight or two in Invicta. For now all Cryborg does is talk. Nothing else.

          • Seth

            No, she didn’t. Making a weight and fighting at that weight are two different things. She didn’t fight at 135, even if she made 135 somewhere, while riding Tito or something.

            Let’s say UFC do 145lbs fight for them. What’s next? What do next with Cryborg? There isn’t 145lbs division and UFC won’t create it any time soon. So, she will get what she wants – in fight with Rousey – and then say “hey, there is no one else for me to fight with you, so Im going back to can crushing”.

            She will either do long term deal with UFC, or she won’t be back. And since that would have to be long term deal – it means she would HAVE to fight at 135 anyway.

            Again, Dana said he wants to see her fight at 135 first – and all Cryborg does is crying. She should stfu, make 135 fight in Invicta, prove she still can fight at that weight and then make a claim that she deserves that fight.

          • Seth

            Ehh…Here we go again. I will explain you this really simple.

            Dana did NOT want to bring ANY type of female MMA to the UFC. Ronda Rousey’s status as a superstar changed his mind and 135lbs division was a test, to see what we can do with it. It took 2 years or so to get an idea to bring another female division. Rousey’s attempts to get attention changed Dana’s mind. Meanwhile Cryborg was busy taking roids and trying to get anything.

            For hardcore fans Cryborg was main attraction, but for casual fan of UFC, who mostly doesn’t even know that there are other companies – those fans most likely never heard about Cryborg, but Rousey being exposed on most MMA sites and stuff – she was known. That AND ONLY THAT made WMMA possible inside the ocatagon. Don’t make mistake about it, Ronda’s screams and trash talking made it real.

            Now WMMA is established in UFC, so they bring another division – which is good move. 115 pound is deep enough to do it. UFC WANTED Cryborg under contract as she had wide fans base – they just needed time to establish something for her. They wanted to do 145lbs division next, not 115. But when Cryborg opted out of the deal, they lost their “Rousey” of 145ers. They lost THE star of the division, around which they could build it up. Im dead serious now and that’s something all fans know – Cryborg would EASILY become UFC female featherweight champion. Then you can do all kind of different fights – move her or Rousey to other division, do a catchweight – whatever you want. But meanwhile, they wanted to keep Cryborg busy, give her a chance to make some money under UFC deal – which was way better. More money, health insurance etc. They needed her to stay busy, so they had a time to plan how they should start the division, let WMMA grow in UFC with 135ers and give people time to learn more about it.

            But Tito and Cryborg crossed those plans. I know Cryborg is a top female fighter. She’s not THE TOP female fighter, but for sure she’s somewhere up there. She lost her chance once she got caught on roids and QUIT UFC on HER OWN. So tell me – how is UFC bad in this situation? They signed her, gave her easy way to make money…and she salute them with middle finger and quit. Now UFC is bad because they don’t want to sign a fighter who quit UFC on her own earlier? That makes no sense.

          • Guest

            ahahahah seems i have to explain it in simple terms for you to understand so here it goes:
            “Dana did NOT want to bring ANY type of female MMA to the UFC. Ronda Rousey’s status as a superstar changed his mind and 135lbs division was a test, to see what we can do with it. It took 2 years or so to get an idea to bring another female division. Rousey’s attempts to get attention changed Dana’s mind. Meanwhile Cryborg was busy taking roids and trying to get anything.”
            ahaha so what your saying is Dana liked Rousey more(since the star of female MMA in strikeforce at that time was Cyborg not Rousey) thats a stupid reason. On March 12, 2011, Dana White revealed on AOL to Ariel Helwani that Zuffa, LLC, the parent company of the UFC, had purchased Strikeforce. Ronda Rousey didnt even have her first MMA fight until March 27, 2011 at KOTC – Turning Point.

            “For hardcore fans Cyborg was main attraction, but for casual fan of UFC, who mostly doesn’t even know that there are other companies – those fans most likely never heard about Cyborg, but Rousey being exposed on most MMA sites and stuff – she was known. That AND ONLY THAT made WMMA possible inside the ocatagon. Don’t make mistake about it, Ronda’s screams and trash talking made it real.”

            Again BS since the casual didn’t learn about rousey until the UFC started promoting her. The biggest name in women’s mma in strikeforce was cyborg.

            Now WMMA is established in UFC, so they bring another division – which is good move. 115 pound is deep enough to do it. UFC WANTED Cryborg under contract as she had wide fans base – they just needed time to establish something for her. They wanted to do 145lbs division next, not 115. But when Cryborg opted out of the deal, they lost their “Rousey” of 145ers. They lost THE star of the division, around which they could build it up. Im dead serious now and that’s something all fans know – Cryborg would EASILY become UFC female featherweight champion. Then you can do all kind of different fights – move her or Rousey to other division, do a catchweight – whatever you want. But meanwhile, they wanted to keep Cryborg busy, give her a chance to make some money under UFC deal – which was way better. More money, health insurance etc. They needed her to stay busy, so they had a time to plan how they should start the division, let WMMA grow in UFC with 135ers and give people time to learn more about it.

            Also BS if Dana was going establish a 145 division he would have done it when he had cyborgs contract. the only reason cyborg opted out of her deal was because they wouldn’t give her fights at 145 and demanded she drop down to 135(a weight class that she had never fought at). Instead Dana and Rousey have done everything in their power to discredit cyborg as a top competitor and opponent for rousey.

            “But Tito and Cryborg crossed those plans. I know Cryborg is a top female fighter. She’s not THE TOP female fighter, but for sure she’s somewhere up there. She lost her chance once she got caught on roids and QUIT UFC on HER OWN. So tell me – how is UFC bad in this situation? They signed her, gave her easy way to make money…and she salute them with middle finger and quit. Now UFC is bad because they don’t want to sign a fighter who quit UFC on her own earlier? That makes no sense.”

            She fired Tito so why are you still trying to use him as a reason for her not fighting in the UFc currently? So all the other fighter that got busted roids in the past get to be in the UFc but cyborg doesnt? thats preposerous at best and hardly a legitimate argument.since she has done random testing since and passed everytime if you had proof she was still using illegal substances than that would be another matter but you have nothing to back up your claims. easy money would be offering her fights at the weight class she fights in not demanding she drops down in weight to fight a fighter who only dropped down to 135 to avoid fighting her(cyborg) in the first place.

          • Seth

            You are either stupid, or trolling at this point.

            If you would follow more than one article per year, you would know more

            http://www.mmaweekly.com/dana-white-ronda-rousey-is-what-it-took-to-get-women-in-the-ufc

            Dana said TMZ at one point that WMMA will NEVER be in the UFC. They didn’t buy Strikeforce for female divisions, dummy. It’s just pointless to argue with you, since you don’t even know simplest facts about subject of WMMA in UFC. Educate yourself, stop grinding Cryborg at night and comeback.

            Why Im using Tito as arguement? Coz that idiot said that she would die, if she make 135. Would you hire a fighter that said (she didn’t denied that, nor she corrected him, so she agreed with Tito on that) that can die while she works for you? That’s kind of a stupid move.

            Again, educate yourself on WHY we even have WMMA in UFC, realize that Cryborg missed a year of action because of HER DECISION to take roids (so, because of HER DECISION to CHEAT) and she lost respect of a lot of people because she was cheating. If she’s clean now – I doubt that – then good for her. But I don’t see a reason to respect a cheater like her, or other male/female fighters that get busted for roids – like Belfort for example.

  • drkdisciple

    “And Rousey wants to fight”…”Well, if she is the next Chuck Liddell, it’ll eventually get her into the UFC Hall of Fame… although that’s probably already a lock” ???????????? what a joke…. How can u be the next Chuck Liddell by running away from your biggest challenge? How can you go to Hall of Fame by fighting easy fights that you are expected to win?….. If Ronda fights Cyborg and destroys her then I will admit that I was wrong about her and that she should indeed be inducted in the Hall of Fame till then she has proved nothing.

    • Aimed With “V”

      I don’t remember anyone blaming Chuck Liddell for not fighting Andrei Arlovski or Tim Sylvia, or blaming that he doesn’t deserve HOF place because of that…

      • drkdisciple

        So many things I could reply to you…lets stick to just a few key points
        (1) Chuck didn’t start his career as a heavyweight, he always fought at 205. On the other hand Ronda started her career at 145.

        (2)Chuck never volunteered to fight or called out a heavyweights. On the other hand Ronda is willing to fight Gina at 145 (because its an easy fight) but wants nothing to do with Cyborg.

        Furthermore Liddell fought everyone there was to fight before he was inducted in the hall of fame Ronda hasn’t proved much so far.

        • Aimed With “V”

          1. Chuck hasn’t fought @HW, but he definitely was ABLE to fight there – he, like all the 205-ers, cut weight, so simple stop of cutting weight would’ve brought him in that division. It doesn’t really matter that he didn’t do it – he definitely could.

          2. Rousey has explained numerous times why she wants Justino to cut to 135 – she considers her muscle mass gained by using PEDs. The accusation hasn’t come from the empty space, since Cristiano has definite visual evidence of certain physical transformations of her body and she also has been caught using.
          That’s what makes her different from Gina Carano, and that’s what makes Carano some privilege in that case – if Gina wishes to accept it anyway.

          3. Rousey has never said no to a sanctioned fight: she fought all the opponents in her division and all the contenders that have been put in front of her – just like Liddell did.

          • drkdisciple

            I respect your opinion just don’t agree with it.

          • aaron gustaveson

            On what grounds, you dont think Cyguy has massively abused steroids?

          • drkdisciple

            The “Cyguy” jokes are getting old big time. I never wrote anywhere that Cyborg didn’t use steroids. Just like every other fighter she should be tested randomly and suspended if she gets caught. I just find it funny that people like NATE MARQUARDT, VITOR BELFORT, STEPHAN BONNAR, ROYCE GRACIE, SEAN SHERK, DENIS HALLMAN …(I could go on forever) all tested positive for roids yet no one questions (questioned) their next fight. When there is a Cyborg fight brought up against anyone but Ronda the topic of roids seems to be a none issue however when its against Ronda its a convenient excuse!

          • aaron gustaveson

            Cyguy will never get old, its ryhmes. Actually I think many people not only questioned their next fight but completely lost respect for them. I disagree, anytime cyguy is brought up the first topic that comes to anyones mind is steriods. No other fighter has the outward signs of abuse quite like her.We’d all like to see the fight but cyguy deserves no exceptions of any kind. Let her fight a few times whiles being tested at 135, then match them up.

          • aaron gustaveson

            I would guess she is super butch AND a steroid abuser. As for pics of her, thats not something I would be interested in searching for.

          • aaron gustaveson

            Are you trolling or stupid? Yeah Im sure she was always manish, to some extent. Thats doesn’t mean that the majority of her physique is a result of steroid abuse. The effects of long term heavy PED use are absolutely permanent, Larger jaw, hand, increase skeletal density, more robust connective tissues ect. How is it s abullshit exceuss, Cygoy is not honorable/respectable and therefore deserves no exceptions. I have seen probably ever pride event. I watched them as they were televised. Football players used to wear leather helmets so I suppose in your opinions a football player today would be a chicken if they didn’t want to play using a leather helmet? Roids absolutely make a fighter better, you can train more, harder and recover from injuries more quickly not to mention YOUR STRONGER! It has nothing to do with fear of manliness and everything to do with honor, respect and merit.

          • aaron gustaveson

            you’re too stupid to waste time on.

          • aaron gustaveson

            You cant be this dumb. I should have said many of the benefits of PED use are effectively permanent. All the fighters you mentioned had other factors in their decline. Respond to the rest of my post if you feel you have a valid argument.

          • aaron gustaveson

            Cygoy is not honorable/respectable and therefore deserves no exceptions. Football players used to wear leather helmets so I suppose in your opinions a football player today would be a chicken if they didn’t want to play using a leather helmet? Roids absolutely make a fighter better, you can train more, harder and recover from injuries more quickly not to mention YOUR STRONGER! It has nothing to do with fear of manliness and everything to do with honor, respect and merit.

  • Shartnado2, the Sloppy One

    So I guess everyone that “Wants to fight” in the UFC is CHuck LIddell now? Especially if they only win by armbar

  • Onebrwn

    How does this make anysense?
    People loved liddell, people hate Ronda.
    Just look at the 2 ppv’s she’s headlined, they didn’t sell for crap.

  • http://batman-news.com Brawlin Bubba

    she will fight anybody anytime anywhere? I dont think so, ask Cyborg. Dana is trying to push everyone into wanting to see her by his comments but she is not near the fighter Liddell was. Shes also not near the type of person Liddell was. That is a complete ridiculous comparison

  • Austin, TX

    Dana has lost his mind. he just says stuff like that to piss people off. he knows what the story is. he knows people hate her. he gets off on p*ssing people off. he’s a brat sometimes. i mean he’s Dana White and I respect him for bringing the sport to the world at large, but he’s also a 2 year old brat sometimes. he knew people would scoff at the comment. he’s secretly embarrased.

    Oh I read that interview. Hey Dana what do you think of your boy A Silva now? he’s a chump. (turned down a fight with Shogun.) always was. also a bully. he wants to box a 45 year old. and he wanted to fight gsp and bisping his whole life. please. p.s. he’s not the goat no matter how many times you and Joe Rogan say it and put it on your site. it’s just a business move designed to intoxicate and attract people who are dumb. $. THere is no such thing as the goat. or if there is one it’s Fedor. Or why not GSP. he owns more UFC victories than anyone. he’s #1. ? It’s all nonsense.

    One more thing having …womens p4p fighters on the same list as men is idiotic. a womens list why not? then why don’t you set up a fight then with Rhonda and Barao? or Mighty Mouse?

    Best wishes. Cheers Dana. Pass that over here….

  • chuckspires.com

    Anyone, anytime, anywhere ….. EXCEPT CRIS CYBORG! She will fight anyone she thinks she an beat. She is desperately trying to put off a Cyborg demand fight hoping Cyborg will mess up and lose so she can jump on that loss and claim Cyborg as lost a fight so she doesn’t deserve to have a fight with me. Both Ronda and White have jumped on the muay thai loss Cyborg had trying to use that as a reason to not fight her. Ronda is going to have to fight Cyborg in order to legitimately claim she is the best.

    • aaron gustaveson

      Wait did she ever say “Anyone, anytime, anywhere”?
      She wouldn’t fight Cain right?
      I haven’t seen Roussey or White using Cyguys loss as an excuse not to fight her.
      Im sure if she drops to 135 and wins a few fights while being tested; the fight will happen.

      • aaron gustaveson

        I see, dana said it on her behalf. Im sure he didn’t mean it literally.

        • chuckspires.com

          White is saying Rondas can beat Floyd Mayweather. Here is the deal. White refuses to give cyborg a fight for the reasons I have already said. And you have Holly Holm whom has a great boxing record and a good kick boxing record and is undefeated in mma. But to White it is like Holm just walked up and said let me fight Ronda. White is like slobbering all over himself to bring Gina in off the street to fight Ronda FOR the belt but people already fighting with great undefeated records are not good enough to fight Ronda. If is walks like a chicken, talks like a chicken and looks like a chicken then you have to call it a chicken. Ronda is a chicken.

          • aaron gustaveson

            Ronda almost certainly would beat mayweather unless he had a good long time to learn some other skills, he is far from the only person saying this. White refuse to give cyborg the fight for now but I dont agree that is for the reasons you said. Holm would be a great fight but I dont see her coming into ufc and getting the title shot immediately, just like cyborg she would have to take a few fights first. White is a promoter and for some reason he thinks Gina is a moviestar. I think he’s crazy to give Gina the fight unless she fights a few other women in UFC first. Whites decisions dont make Ronda a chicken though, how could they?

          • chuckspires.com

            What you and what I think is not relevant to the UFC but what Dana says is very much so. And Dana denying two females whom have been competing for the time Gina has been in Hollywood and yet he categorically refuses to even consider giving them a straight to UFC fight when he is saying he will do this for Carano is two faced and totally protecting Ronda from two fighter that could very well be at the top of their game while bringing in someone whom is not. You have got to see this as being the same. Yes you can argue any way you want to but it is papa protecting his little girl or he is protecting his girlfriend. Either way you look at it he is protecting her. Maybe because she is still making him money and when she is no longer doing that she will face a Cyborg or Holm. Dana needs to get over his Ronda fetish!

          • aaron gustaveson

            I see it as White making a stupid exception for Carno because he believes she is a celebrity, NOT as White denying other fighters the same chance because they are a danger to Ronda. Also Im sure White would give Ronda some say if making a silly matchup (like any of these fights would be without these women taking other fights in the UFC first) I haven’t heard anything from Ronda about Holm but almost no one respects Cyguy so why give her an exception? Holm wanted to be paid many times more than other females fighters in the UFC if she got to the title shot. Fair imo but thats not how pay works in UFC’s womens division.

          • chuckspires.com

            In sports you don’t or shouldn’t make exceptions. You win your way to the top of your sport by merritts. Ronda has won her way to the top of the UFC and Cyborg has won her way to the top. We the fans should be able to see which one is at the top of the sport. And no, Ronda should have no say in who she fights. She claims to be the best in the world but said she would only fight Cyborg if Cyborg jumps through hoops. Cyborg has been asking for Rousey even back when she was in the UFC and Dana refused and also refused to take Cyborgs record into account. Dana was giving the Carano vs Cyborg fight to Carano back then when he was asked who he thought would win he would say Carano will kill Cyborg. He has never said anything positive toward Cyborg. You are being blinded by your love for Ronda if you do not think this fight needs to happen. Dude look around the internet. 80% of the UFC fans think Cyborg would win against Rousey. Back in highschool I was triple A national championship wrestler and I wanted to wrestle everyone that had a record showing they had talent because I wanted the test. I had to prove it against everyone I faced because that is what a champion does. When you sit back and say someone with a better record needs to prove them self then you have something to hide.
            It is to Rondas benefit to put this fight off as long as she can and it’s called her career. Cause I think as soon as Ronda is no longer the champion she will move to the movies like Carano did.
            It’s plain and simple. This fight needs to happen if not but to give one of them the bragging rights. The fair out here are calling for it while the Rousey fans resist with every fiber of their being.

          • aaron gustaveson

            Cyguy has not fought to the top, She is not even in UFC. Rhonda is not asking that cyborg jump through hoops, its obvious now that you aren’t reading my comments. I do want the fight to happen and think that it should, after cyguy has fought a couple times in UFC.

          • chuckspires.com

            Cyborg, if you read around the net at all is the most deserving of a title shot than any woman out there. No she is not in the UFC any longer and I think she made a mistake leaving but I think she was frustrated with the way it appeared coming from Dana. Check the net guy. Three to one everyone says Cyborg deserves a title shot. Your just not willing to make the admission which at this point anyone that refuses to say she is not the best or at least in the top two women in mma then when she does fight Lousey Rousey you will be one of those that will come out saying she cheated or find some type of excuse. So tell you what. I will wait for the fight to happen and for Lousey Rousey to retire and then see what you cry about.

          • aaron gustaveson

            If you read around the net? WTF? You do realize that if we based things of the conscience of those that speak upon the net we would all be listening to Justin Bieber and little wayne right now? Most potential to win does not equate to most deserving. She left the day after UFC announced more strict testing. IMO cyborg is the toughest challenge out there but this is a sport. Cyborg needs to get back to UFC and take a couple fights at 135 while being tested like a mofo, then we can all see the fight. The second half of your comment, you went all third grade on me. I have no emotional attachment to RR. Logic and sportsmanship determine my position on this issue.

      • chuckspires.com
        • aaron gustaveson

          It is stupid to point out her loss in muay thai as any sort of reason that she doesn’t deserve exceptions.
          1. There are already good reasons that she doesn’t deserve an exception.
          2. Roussey would have done even worse in that muay thia fight the Cyborg did.
          As for the “Any time . . . ” Cyborg said in the interview you linked “when you’re a true fighter, you fight anyone”. If we were to take this literally like you did what white said . . well lets just say she wouldn’t fight “anyone”.

          • aaron gustaveson

            damn spelling.

  • Professor

    I’m beyond sick of hearing about Miss Piggy. She’s completely overrated and overhyped by the UFC, obviously. Fight Cyborg, until then Cyborg is #1! Rousey fights lame chicks and now she’s some superstar? No.

    • aaron gustaveson

      piggy? I dont get it?

  • The Prognosticator

    Contrary to everyone else, I believe that analogizing Ronda Rousey to Chuck Liddell is a particularly apt comparison. Chuck Liddell won the UFC LHW Championship at UFC 52 after defeating Randy Couture. However, before capturing the belt, Chuck Liddell had been absolutely demolished by Quinton Jackson in the semi-finals of the Pride MW (MW was 205 in Pride) Grand Prix in 2003. Notwithstanding Quinton Jackson’s presence in MMA, as well as Wanderlei Silva’s (who defeated Jackson in that same tournament), Liddell would proclaim himself the best LHW in the world. In the meantime, Liddell would feast on a plethora of middling fighters during his reign as LHW champion i.e., Tito Ortiz twice, Renato Sobral, Vernon White, Jeremy Horn, and Randy Couture again. Meanwhile, Quinton Jackson and Wanderlei Silva would remain in Pride fighting lesser opponents until the organization’s collapse. Ultimately, Liddell would be forced to face Quinton Jackson again, who was always a better fighter, thereby losing the LHW belt and his status as the best LHW in MMA.

    I see a similar scenario playing out with Ronda Rousey. Ronda Rousey was handed the WBW Championship belt. Since defending the WBW belt against middling fighters, i.e. Meisha Tate, Sarah Kaufman, Sara McMann, and Liz Carmouche, Ronda Rousey has unequivocally proclaimed herself the best female in WMMA. Meanwhile, Cristiane Justino, has been fighting lesser opponents, with the exception of Marloes Coenen, in Invicta FC. Ultimately, once Ronda Rousey cleans out her division, like Liddell did his, she will be forced to take a catchweight or 135 lbs fight against Cristiane Justino, where she will convincingly lose via KO/TKO and/or lose her WBW belt. Hence, in my opinion, the aptness of the comparison between Ronda Rousey and Chuck Liddell.

    The only dissimilarities between the two fighter’s careers are: (1) Ronda Rousey never lost to Cristiane Justino before winning her WBW belt; (2) the disdain the majority of MMA fans have for Ronda Rousey as opposed to the love for Chuck Liddell; and (3); Ronda Rousey’s current ability to hide in a lower weight class. Regardless, I believe Ronda Rousey’s ending will mirror Chuck Liddell’s. Ronda Rousey will lose to Cristiane Justino via KO/TKO, proving Cristiane Justino was always the better fighter, thereby stripping her of her status as the best female in WMMA, which like Chuck Liddell’s status as the best LHW, never should have been given to her in the first place.

    • The Prognosticator

      I did not say that Pride had inferior fighters please reread my comment. I said Quinton and Wanderlei were fighting lesser fighters. For instance I believe Tito and Randy are better than Minowa, Arona, Murilo Rua, Yakoi, Don Sik Yoon, and Lindland…all of Rampages subsequent opponents until the Liddell rematch (exception Shogun). Wanderlei’s opponents are more debatable, I would say Henderson is better than both Tito and Randy, however, I believe that MInowa, Kondo, Arona, Fujita, Nakamura, Yoshida, Crocop (overrated IMO), and Hunt (this one is debatable) were all worse than Tito and Randy. These are the fights each one had until reaching the UFC. My conclusion is that Rampage was fighting lesser guys than Chuck until the rematch, as well as Wanderlei until his entrance to the UFC not that Pride had inferior fighters because that is not true. It had all the big names until its imminent collapse.

      • The Prognosticator

        I just explained what I meant by that statement apparently you really can’t read…remember I wrote the damn statement. I just listed the opponents that Rampage and Wandy fought and with the exceptions of Shogun and Henderson, none of those guys are better than Tito and Randy IMO. Furthermore, the fact that Rampage never was the top LHW in Pride only bolsters the analogy between Chuck and Ronda because both of them were/are not the best in MMA as both of them have claimed.

        • The Prognosticator

          Dear Steven, I cannot help the helpless. I already have addressed all the issues you brought up. In addition, I never said Chuck ducked anyone. I said he was never the best LHW in the world like Ronda is not the best female in WMMA as they both have claimed. It is called an opinion. Maybe you should look it up. Arona is debatable I’ll give you that, however, the UFC not even signing him I think speaks volumes. The only elite fighters Rampage fought during the time span before their rematch were Shogun and Wandy (Wandy is included separately so he is not being counted. I didn’t count their fights with one another. The agument is that during Liddell’s reign as champion, who else was at the top of the sport. Shogun was on the rise hence not being included.) Crocop was a HW and an overrated one period. His run in the UFC showed that quite clearly. Tito beat Wandy during his prime BTW so you should get your facts straight. Finally, I already said the level of competition was higher in Pride than the UFC what don’t you understand about that statement?