Is Move to Heavyweight Good Idea for Jon Jones?

April 28, 2012
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UFC champion Jon Jones
When a fighter dominates a weight class like Georges St-Pierre has done at welterweight, Anderson Silva at middleweight, and now Jon Jones is doing at light heavyweight, the question always seems to come up: when will they move weight classes?

What happened to the days of just being great at one weight class?

Well, UFC president Dana White agrees with that ideology, especially when talking about their UFC light heavyweight champion pursuing a title at heavyweight.

Looking at the monsters that walk around in the heavyweight division, White knows that Jones would already be at a disadvantage, and he’s hoping that if it ever does happen that he’s more than prepared for a big move like that.

Check out what White had to say about Jones potential move to heavyweight and if it’s a smart move or not:

  • pooby

    Dana, drop the HW talk and set up a fight with Anderson.

    • Cptmats

      #1 There is no reason he should be pressured to move up if he has no trouble making 205lbs.
      #2 After seeing a couple holes in Jones’s striking exposed lately i think Silva would knock him out !

      • RubeKegal

        “Couple holes”? He got caught with a punch and a kick means he has holes? Anderson Silva also got dropped twice bvy Chael Sonnen who is a f*cking wrestler who knocks NOBODY out. Rashad hit Bones hard and Bones has a chin.

        Anderson Silva has nothing to offer Bones Jones….absolutely nothing.

        • MikeMc1983

          I said the same thing before and got the same silly response.
          Jones had tons of holes in his striking vs. Evans. Just because Evans didn’t take advantage of them doesn’t mean someone else wouldn’t. In fact just about everytime jones was made to move backward, he left himself open. Some of them really bad. Best one he did was the one where he turned his back and ran. I noticed no one brought it up.

          Jones knew he was sloppy. I think he admitted it himself. And Evans is an idiot for moving backwards the majority of the fight. Bad move vs. a guy with a foot reach advantage.
          Hopefully hendo moves forward and sees if jones has learned anything.

          • RubeKegal

            MikeMc the only person who is silly here is you. Answer my question about Chael cutting through Anderson so easily. Your argument that Bones was getting out of harms way is absurd…

            Anderson often turned his back to Maia and Leites….does that mean he has holes in his game? Don’t be a f’in moron.

            The probability of Bones fighting Anderson is minimal, but i’ll throw this out there in case they do fight. Bones will destroy Anderson very easily.

          • AdamBianski

            Wow you need to stop being a hater name one champion who has ever carved up a division like Bones. The only holes in his game you saw were in his hands and feet because he might be the second coming. Stop posting stupid shit Jon would decimate Anderson PERIOD and no dan will not move forward Jon will keep him very far away and make him pay every time he moves forward. Very foolish post,

          • MikeMc1983

            I’ll blame myself for not knowing how explain mistakes and openings Jon had in his last fight. There are openings within every technique a guy uses. Usually the cleaner a technique is perform, the smaller the opening. Jon was really sloppy with a bunch of stuff. Without sitting side by side watching the fight it’s hard to point. I’ll also mention that he has been much cleaner before.

            Your looking at the result of what happened. I get that, but there’s more to it. It’s like saying if a qb doesn’t get sacked, or hurried then his offense line must have made all their blocks. It doesn’t work that way.

            Jones wasn’t great vs. Evans. He was just alot less bad.
            By the way, there are proper ways to move back and counter.
            I don’t know why you brought up Anderson, but it’s not like he’s perfect either.

          • kostagiann

            u make no sense

          • Enfo

            I think it’s easy even for a fighter by Evans standard to get stunned by Jones long reach and goofy style.
            Jones makes great former champions passive, just because it hurts to face him and when they can’t get inside without getting hit all the time they get passive.
            Perhaps Machida had the best chance with his fast in-and-out karate style. Now, Jones worst enemy at LW is himself. As long as he keeps focus I can’t see anyone else on top of the division.

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660048847 quentinclemons

          You sound stupid this kid has only been training four years and you talk like he’s the ****ing greatest. Look at the comments that come out of Jones mouth he him self knows he is not ready for Silva. You give him 3 or 4 more years we will see a Jon Jones and it will be a monster MAYbE

        • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660048847 quentinclemons

          Oh and yeah so he couldn’t destroy Rashad but he is going to Destroy the number 1 P4P and best fighter there has even been in the UFC easily. Ounce again you sound like a joke

          • AdamBianski

            funny the pound for pound best is in worst div. get real dude.

          • kostagiann

            only u dana white think he is the 1p4p, fedor was always 1 p4p of all time in any planet and now its jones

        • Cptmats

          Duh well for one thing that punch was a big right hand and if Hendo were to land the same punch Bones would prob. still be out ! And Machida expose a lot of holes in his striking and Jones lack of experience showed ! He was trying to exchange kicks and punches with a karate master ! Up untill the choke Machida was winning the fight ! Anderson would beat Jones in a stand up war hands down !

          • rsnowbass

            I’ve said this before…I’m not convinced that Hendo hits any harder than Rashad and if he does hit harder it couldn’t be by THAT much. Hendo couldn’t put Shields or Shogun out with one of those punches, so what makes you so sure Jones would get put out with one of them?

            Hendo’s getting older by the minute in this sport for the record…

            Don’t get me wrong, I’m a fan of Henderson and would love to see him beat the odds and defeat Jones, but I’m also a realist here.

            As a for a Jones vs Anderson Silva matchup, they both pose problems for each other that they’ve both never seen. I think that would be a great fight.

            For all the Jones haters and critiquers out there…yes he’s been sloppy at times and still has some “cleaning up to do” with his game but no one since Anderson Silva has walked through their division the way he has…and for the most part, unscathed. He’s 24 afterall and improving…you have to give him credit it scary how well he’s taken to MMA in the short amount of time he’s been training in it.

          • rsnowbass

            CHEERS!

        • kostagiann

          u r right brother finally someone who makes sense

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001587583773 luisromero

    Jon bones jones to heavyweight?not just yet,heavyweight is something else,Jon bones jones is dominating the 205 but he still needs more experience to move up or to fight Anderson silva

  • natpaukar7

    If Anderson Silva gets more “experience” he will get too old and it won’t be a superfight per se’ anymore. I think Silva should move up immediately after he kills Sonnen and KO jones. After seeing Jones fight machida in the first round I really don’t see him beating Silva. He is great but everyone looks good until they fight someone better. Jones Silva …PLEASE!!!

    • RubeKegal

      LOL Machida decimates Anderson in sparring…thats not my opinion, that is FACT! There’s several vids on the underground forums that prove this.

      • AdamBianski

        Rube are we watching a different show then these clowns. Jones would destroy Anderson DESTROY him.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=660048847 quentinclemons

        Not true I have seen them and got inside info from guys out the black house camp and I train with Shane primm from the UFC tv show when he is on team nog and when Anderson is for real he said its a one sided ass wopen that Anderson give Lyoto

        • RubeKegal

          your sources are flawed:

          This video is Lyoto taking Anderson down twice, submitting him twice and going easy in standup

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g6z0Iai-T0

        • gregmumford

          Oh yeah? I know anderson silva personally and Lyoto is my gardener, I hang with team black everyday and we all make fun of ed soares together. And Lyoto drinks my pee, only the first pee of the morning tho. See i can make outrageous claims too, does not make it true. Guys like you are funny, only saying you know this guy, and I have “inside” info on that dude, just to sound important, knowing that they wont need proof to back up these claims of knowing this guy or that guy. Please…..

      • shereko

        I think its funny that everyone says that Anderson (who is avg sized Middleweight) has to move up to fight Jones (a huge lw) but, yet Jones can’t move to fight JDS (med size hw) at HW or even GSP move up to fight Anderson, but the oldest fighter at champion has to bounce around?? This isnt playing favorites like everyone sucking on Jones, thats just pure numbers…

        • MikeMc1983

          I get what your saying, but you do realize there’s a 60 pound difference in class for Jon to move up. I get that jds doesn’t max out, but I wouldn’t picture jones getting the title shot right off the bat anyhow.
          Also, Gsp fans like to act like he’s not bigger than everyone in the division. Except maybe rumble trying to get there. Gsp has been bigger than everyone he’s fought.
          There was a fight Anderson defended his title and came in I believe at 179lbs. Rogan said he was testing his ability to drop down. I’d like to see jones or Gsp come in 6 pounds lower.

        • MaritalArtist

          Good point

      • Cptmats

        Anderson Silva and Lyoto Machida Sparring at Black House

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4g6z0Iai-T0

      • MaritalArtist

        That makes sense. First, machida is not afraid of silva. 2nd, he’s a karate master striker. 3rd, he knows silva well, and 4th, he’s a weight class above silva. Duh.

    • fsunoles09

      hah i hope it happens so jones can mop the floor with silvas ass.

      • Booker T

        Right on! I second that.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001587583773 luisromero

    But if JJ keeps up the good work as he done til now,in about a year I think he can beat Anderson silva,y,cause the spider is getting old and jj is just getting Stronger and better

    • Lesnardo

      I think even now Jones would kill Silva.

  • Booker T

    Jones will dominate the heavyweights. Ali was the same weight as Jones if Jones isn’t cutting weight. Also Royce Grace showed that weight was not an issue. Don’t let them big guys fool you, Jones will take care of business at heavyweight. Also Spinks took care of Holmes twice. Jones over Dos Santos any day of the week.

    • sameames

      No, no no. First of all, what the hell does Ali have to do with this? The Royce Gracie days are ancient history, MMA has changed an insane amount since then. Jones would not dominate at heavyweight. I don’t know what you have seen that shows you he could beat JDS. That’s crazy talk. Or crazy ****rider talk.

      • AdamBianski

        One thing I will say is that vera did very well in HW then could not compete at LHW the speed has a lot to do with it kinda like Ali.

        • Lesnardo

          U mean Vera did “okay” at HW pre-PRIDE merger days. He was better at pre-PRIDE merger HW than he has been at post-PRIDE merger LHW.

      • Booker T

        Alistair Overeem was a LW and he is now a dominate HW. Jones is way better than Overeem. Duh……. no brainer

  • fsunoles09

    you talk like spinks was a scrub the guy had 1 lost on his record and that was against tyson in his prime.but jds would knock jones slap the f out.first of all his reach wont be nowhere near as big a factor as it is now, he aint just gonna be able to toss around any heavyweight like he does now and lets face it jones doesnt have ko power at lhw let alone hw.i like jones but i cant see em beatin mir cain jds and there is a few more that im goin mind blank on right now.

    • Booker T

      Spinks was no scrub. He was the first LHT to win the Hw crown. Alisair Overeem was LHT and now a dominate HW. Why can’t Jones do it?

  • dgs

    Jones is an amazing light heavyweight, but he would be KO’d badly by the likes of Junior Dos Santos, Cain Velasquez, Shane Carwin, Gabriel Gonzaga, Fabricio Werdum, etc. If he wasn’t out right KO’d, he would get beat on pretty badly for three rounds.

    If Jones tried to bulk up with weight and muscle I think it would slow him significantly, and even though he would still enjoy a 20 to 30 lb weight disadvantage.

    Who knows, maybe he will prove us all wrong, but I think the smart choice is 205. There will always be people for him to fight at that weight, just as they keep finding challengers for St. Pierre and Anderson Silva. I’m actually still waiting for the super fight with him and Silva at 205, which will go down as one of the best fights ever in the sport.

  • AdamBianski

    Jon Jones is the best ever EVER what champion has ever defended there title at the rate he has. Most champs fight once maybe twice a year. Jones is not only defending his title every four months he is beating former champs and in the most competitive divison of all. If you want to know about his greatness check out the odds of his fights. Always a huge favorite and those huge ass casinos didn’t get built because odds makers are ignorant, but because they are very smart and no alot more then all of us.

    • Lesnardo

      “If you want to know about his greatness”

      I agree with you but I gotta say:

      (a) you are a nuthugger, a creepy nuthugger.

      AND

      (b) you are a horrible writer and an uneducated MMA nerd.

      • AdamBianski

        you call me a nuthugger yet you agree with what i have to say, kinda weird guess you huggen my nuts then.

  • mmachoman

    Clearing out a division means having a tough time finding an opponent. That’s not the case in the light-heavyweight division right now so talk of Jones moving up is a bit premature.

    • Lesnardo

      R u serious?

      Obviously, there will always be new guys for Jones to destroy. But don’t you think clearing out a division means beating everyone of top 5 guys in the division with ease?

      Jones only has Hendo to go. Gustafson and other guys like him will have to go thru the top 5 gauntlet first before being mentioned as a contender./

  • EricLahache

    RubeKegal….chael did what damage? for 5 rounds….watch the fight…he wasnt even scratched or bruised after the fight. just because someone is overpowered by someone on steroids while suffering an injured rib . dont mean shiit. he came out after the fight with the win and didnt even look like he fought that night lol. and stand up wise he would destroy jon bones jones.

    • AdamBianski

      yes you are right because the guys adnderson beats are all top notch fighters. I mean all jon did was beat rashad, rampage, toyata, shogun, and bader while anderson is dominating the great chael, cote, maia, leites, vitor, and forrest. Sarcasm included in the post.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100002303381295 dude

        I mean all jon did was beat rashad, rampage, toyata, shogun

        and those guys are all champs because they were in a division that didn’t have Anderson as dominant champ since 2007

        so basically Jones beat 4 top ten guys in his division

        (and Anderson beats all those guys too, lets be honest)

        while anderson is dominating the great chael, okami, vitor, henderson, franklin, cote, maia, leites,, and forrest

        and Silva beat 8 top ten guys in his weight class
        (all ranked top ten when they fought)
        and kicks the living shit out of a champ from the weight class above him.

        • AdamBianski

          i wish rashad would drop so bad. he would pen anderson to the ground and pound him out. i see a fight with shogan going like the second fight wish toyota. i do believe anderson would make rampage look foolish as does everyone good that fights him (remember he dominated hendo) and yes that is a knock on hendo.

          • Booker T

            Right on Adam.

        • RubeKegal

          Is being a moron the new “cool” thing to be? Poster titled “Dude” it’s pretty evident that twice in this thread there is a video of Lyoto and Anderson sparring and Lyoto kicking Anderson’s ass.

          Anderson became the #1 contender by defeating the great Chris Leben, then he defended his belt against the great Patrick Cote and the great Thales Leites.

          Bones has fought a different calibur opponent and would have Anderson at his mercy.

        • Lesnardo

          Actually, MWs are all LHW rejects, that is, people that couldn’t cut at LHW moving down a weight class.

          Toyata?????? You mean Lyoto Machida.

          Chael and Vitor are not even top 10 at LHW. They are top 3 at MW. End of the story.

    • RubeKegal

      Eric, your grasp on Andersons nuts are so tight, it’s cutting off your oxygen supply. Anderson was 2 minutes away from losing a CLEAR CUT decision to Chael….there is no arguing that. Andersons face was puffed up, he had a fat lip as well, anyone who says otherwise is a ballhugger.

  • AdamBianski

    Mike im just saying every fighter has holes in there game fact. Yet the great ones dont get exploited jones has not yet and will not he is good just say it.

    • shereko

      You mean “their”

      • Lesnardo

        Adam needs education.

        But in any case, Adam is correct.

        • AdamBianski

          sorry i dont proof read what i post i just say my argument. didnt realize i needed to proof read all of my stuff, so i dont get criticized by all of you english profs.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001199721203 jonmendelsohn

    Jon needs to stay at light heavy. Give him 10 more fights there, then, move up to Heavyweight. By then, we will probably have a crusierweight division, which would be the perfect segue. He can fight 10 times at crusierweight. Then, move up to Heavyweight. If Jon fights 4 fights per year, meaning, 2 more times in 2012, 4 times in 2013, and 4 times in 2014, he will be ready for Crusierweight in 2015. He can fight there until mid 2017. Then, take 6 months to naturally put on the weight. Pretty much, start his career over, with the new weight. Have 5 tune up fights between Feb 2018 and late 2019. Fight for the heavyweight title in early 2020.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001199721203 jonmendelsohn

    Jon is 16-1 right now. He would be 26-1 when he fights for the crusierweight title, and 43-1 when he fights for the heavyweight title. He will be only 32 going on 33 when he fights for the heavyweight title. He is still 24. He will not be 25 until July 19th. If Jon takes my advice, he will be naturally ready for Heavyweight, and a good 5 year title reign, before retiring 55-1, at the tender age of 37 or 38.

    • Lesnardo

      alright Mendelsohn. Go play your violin now.

  • kostagiann

    jones has to fight in the mens weight and he will clean them out

  • MaritalArtist

    Jones is a great fighter, and he’s close but he’s not the best yet. If silva moves up to fight him, he will catch him, a lot more than lyoto or rashad caught him. He will peobably go down. If he moves up, jds or mir or even hunt will take him out. JBJ is incredible, but he’ll probably have to do the unthinkable to be goat: fight AS, rematch rashad, fight sonnen, fight jds, fight Mir, etc.

    • Lesnardo

      Mir, Hunt cannot take Jones out.

      JDS might.

  • AdamBianski

    if i see one more person say that the mw division is not the weekest in the sport i will proly laugh till i pee my self. IT IS THE WEEKEST DIVISION PERIOD. That is not a knock on Anderson because he dispatches opps. the way he should. I just cant say the champ of the weekest div. is the best. he is top three, and if he was as big as jones it would be a great fight not sure who would win, but he is not and would not get close nor be able to drop his hands and mock jones in the ring. if jones started to lose the stand up he would shoot and dump anderson over and over.

    • Lesnardo

      “weakest” NOT “weekest.”

      Dude, I think you make valid points. Get some education dude.

      • AdamBianski

        for now on i will email you what i want to post so you can read it and check my spelling.

  • JBroce

    @RubeKegal

    You obviously dont know that Chael Sonnen is a golden gloves boxer do you? His standup is actually pretty good. And as far as Jones goes, it doesnt matter if he has holes in his game. His height and reach keeps everyone far enough away to where they can never exploit them. He needs to go to HW. In this case his height and reach advantage is just as big a mismatch as a weight advantage. Its like when Tim sylvia was champ. Everyone knew he had huge holes in his game but no one could get to him with his reach advantage. Jones is far more skilled and athletic than Sylvia but the example still applies. Evans, Machida and shogun all are on an equal skill level as Jones or even more skilled but the reach keeps them to far away to prove it.

    • RubeKegal

      I didn’t know Chael was a Golden Gloves boxer, but honestly that doesn’t mean sh*t in MMA. Alot of these guys have come from professional boxing backgrounds, instead of high level amateur boxing which is what Golden Gloves really is.

      Point being, some clown said Rashad “exposed” Jones and I call poppycock on that. If Rashad “exposed” Jones, then Chael murdered Anderson.

      I see what youre saying with Sylvia and it’s true….it’s part of the game.

      Lastly, did anyone see Brock Lesnar Kimura Triple H’s arm till it broke?!?!??!