Cris Cyborg Questions Ronda Rousey, Why 145 for Gina Carano But Not Me?

April 9, 2014
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Cris CyborgThe recent chatter about Gina Carano possibly wanting to return to fighting, and her admitting that she’s meeting with UFC president Dana White to discuss it, has peaked the interest of many, including UFC bantamweight champion Ronda Rousey.

Prior to the UFC 171 weigh-ins in Dallas on March 14, Rousey praised Carano for her contributions to women’s fighting and expressed an interest in fighting for former “Face of Women’s MMA.”

“I think given everything that she’s done for the sport and the pioneer that she is, I think she deserves a title shot any time,” said Rousey.

When she was an active fighter, Carano struggled to make weight for the 145-pound division. Rousey fights at 135 pounds. Carano hasn’t fought as a bantamweight since her professional debut in June 2006.

When asked about a possible catchweight fight with Carano, Rousey stated, “There are exceptions that I would make for Gina that I wouldn’t for anyone else.”

Those comments have Cris “Cyborg” Justino believing what she’s said all along – that Rousey is ducking her.

“Ronda, she did an interview and she said 145 for Gina, only for Gina, not for me. I think she run from me. I think she’s a fake fighter,” said Cyborg in a recent interview on Inside MMA. “When you’re a true fighter, you fight everyone.”

(Watch the video of Cris Cyborg’s Inside MMA interview.)

Cyborg walks around at 160 pounds, but is determined to cut down to the 135-pound weight class to challenge Rousey.

“I think I can make 135 in the year. And I want to make this fight that everyone wants to watch,” she said. “I want to make this fight that all the fans want to watch, and I think it’s only possible when I make 135.”

Cyborg is expected to defend her Invicta FC featherweight title in June and wants her first fight as a bantamweight to take place in Invicta. If that happens, there would be no more barriers preventing a match-up with Rousey from taking place.

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  • Stephen Quadros

    If Cyborg was a true fighter it would be fighting in the UFC men’s featherweight division

  • The Prognosticator

    The answer to Cyborg’s question is basically common sense. Rousey can either (1) Fight Carano at 145 lbs, a woman who has not fought in 4.5 years, and get an easy payday via earning an armbar submission victory in round one, thus leaving her status as a UFC icon intact; or (2) Fight Cyborg at 145 lbs, a woman who is a vastly superior striker and has a strong Brazilian Ju-jitsu background, lose via KO/TKO in round one, and observe her status as a UFC icon evaporate overnight. From Rousey’s perspective, all things considered, option (1) is clearly the better choice.

    • James Williams

      Well said. Not to mention that the payday from the Carano fight would likely be larger. That means the incentive structure is really geared towards taking the Carano fight.

      • The Prognosticator

        Well said yourself.

      • Mark McDowall

        I dunno so much. I think more people want to see Rousey vs Cyborg than Rousey vs Carano. I know I would. But I see your point a fight with Carano would be a bit more mainstream and easier to sell.

    • Filip

      u rly think Gina is easy oponent? Even tho she has not fought for a while, u never know with a striker… Cyborg won fight against Gina only because her stronger ground game, in stand up it was 50-50, and btw Gina had her 2 times in ground and pound situation… Gina has a chance for KO/TKO Ronda in 1st round. Of course, Cyborg has a little better chance, but… We will see…

      • The Prognosticator

        Yes, I think that Carano lost her passion for fighting a long time ago, which explains her 4.5 year hiatus. I see any return by Carano as simply an attempt to reap a large financial reward while the opportunity presents itself.

        Regarding Carano’s fight with Cyborg, Cyborg incorrectly executed two throws that caused Carano to be in top position twice, therefore, in my opinion, it was not Carano’s skill that caused those fortuitous circumstances. As for the striking during their fight, it seemed as though Cyborg was beginning to “tee off” on Carano during the last minute of round one before the flurry of ground strikes that ended the fight.

        Finally, concerning a potential match up with Rousey, I believe that Carano would not be able to stop Rousey from executing a throw in the opening minute of round one; or stop the flurry of armbar submission attempts that would inevitably follow. Furthermore, Carano’s ring rust would likely aid Rousey in her endeavors as well by making Carano more tentative. In lieu of these aforementioned circumstances, I believe a Carano versus Rousey fight ends in an easy armbar submission victory for Rousey likely in round one.

        • Filip

          u should count every strike bro, Carano has blocked a lot of Cyborgs hits u know… And u don’t call that skill? Cyborg wanned to push her to the ground then they both fall there and Carano finds her self to the top and that’s not skills? So if that’s not skills of Carano then that’s stupidity by Cyborg then, right? And u should know one thing, even tho Gina Carano is way higher class then rest of the wMMA, by her personality and stuff, she is even greater fighter then Ronda, why? SHE FOUGHT GREATEST wMMA FIGHTER OF ALL TIME CYBORG FFS!!! AND SHE HAD CHANCE ON HER TO WIN THE MACH BY THOSE TWO SITUATIONS I MENTIONED! She’s not like Ronda who can’t fight Cyborg, Gina went streight throught that fight and she fought pretty well, if she could make to the 2nd round it would be even greater match since the bell has been late 1sec or something like that xD but nvm nvm, am actually happier to see her shine in movies more and more, better payment and stuff like that :D

          • The Prognosticator

            I believe that Cyborg never should of attempted those two throws in the first place. In addition, I stated Cyborg began to “tee off” on Carano during the final minute of round one. Also note that Carano was quickly reversed after both of those poorly executed throws by Cyborg. I really hope that we find out what the agenda is for Rousey, Cyborg, and Holm in the near future.

  • snapdad

    CYBORG VS LESNAR! dana, make it happen

    • wow

      may the better man win

  • Mark McDowall

    Pretty valid question honestly. The fact that the UFC would let Rousey fight in a weight class that technically doesn’t exist with in the UFC, against 1 opponent and not the other…kinda proves that they are protecting her.

    • The Prognosticator

      That’s exactly right.

      • Darin

        So, Carano would be a 145lb. champ and Rousey would still be 135 lb. champ even though she lost to Carano?
        It would never happen. If the UFC started a 145lb. women’s division Cyborg would be all over it. She would destroy Carano again and be champ. Dana will do everything in his power to keep his women’s champs cute and girly.

        • fsunoles10

          destroyed? she beat her but i wouldnt say destroyed, it came down to cyborg being on roids. if you dont remember carano had cyborgs back and gave her all she oculd handle when the fight hit the ground, hell even standing up she was jabbing the shit out of cyborg. the only reason cybrog is impressive is because of her roid strength, she isnt the most skilled fighter she just throws haymakers. rousey would drop her on her head and break that poor little arm of hers.

        • The Prognosticator

          I think you’ve read the comment section wrong, I agreed that the UFC is protecting Rousey not with the creation of a 145 lb division. I agree, that is not going to happen any time soon.

    • TheCerealKiller

      AND… what if Gina won?

      • Mark McDowall

        Who knows?? I guess they would have to create a 145lb women’s division almost immediately…but I really don’t know.

        • Kareem Francis

          And inevitably Cyborg would smash her again. ….and lead us right back down this same road minus the PED issue

    • Darin

      Of course they are protecting her. If Dana had Cyborg wearing the belt and crushing everyone else, he would suddenly have a change of heart about women in the UFC.

    • fsunoles10

      pissed hot bud, thats all that needs to be said when referring to a rousey cyborg catchweight. she doesnt deserve the same luxury of a fighter thats been clean her entire career. the champ doesnt need to chase anyone they need to chase her.

    • Maddawgmar

      What weight class? A catchweight bout, has been numerous times in the UFC.

      • The Prognosticator

        Carano has had trouble making both 140 lbs and 145 lbs in the past, so it is a reasonably safe assumption that any catchweight fight between Carano and Rousey would be above 140 lbs. Cyborg has stated she would meet Rousey in the middle at 140 lbs on numerous occasions.

        If the people in this thread are simply honest with themselves they’ll admit that Rousey is not fighting Cyborg because the UFC knows that Cyborg would win easily by KO/TKO likely in round one. Furthermore, Cyborg as either UFC champion, or the face of women’s MMA in the UFC, would stultify women’s MMA as a financial investment for the UFC due to the perception the fans have of Cyborg as being unattractive, unmarketable, and inarticulate.

        Finally, while I agree that severe sanctions should be levied upon those caught using steroids, I also agree with Cyborg’s view that true fighters who believe their the best should try to prove their the best by fighting everyone, especially when they’re out of legitimate opponents. Cyborg has served her suspension, it’s time she got the recognition she deserves for her talent.

        • Maddawgmar

          I agree with a lot of what you are saying. Where we differ is in the consideration Cyborg deserves. After she failed her test and served her suspension, she doesn’t automatically deserve the same considerations as before, IMO. She has to go out there and prove herself to be a clean fighter and still on top. The only way to do that is go to Rousey and beat her, Rousey should not have to come to her, IMO. Also I believe Rousey has just as good of a chance to be Cyborg and Cyborg has to beat her. Just my thoughts and opinion.

  • Mihael Hajdin

    no way dana is throwing honda in the same cage as cyborg, he will loose his cash cow and poor honda could die..

  • Seth

    Why? Well…where should we start?
    1. You are roid up freak.
    2. Ronda has no interest in fighting outside her division
    3. YOU are the one that has to prove something, after being suspended for a year FOR CHEATING.
    4. You had a chance before to fight in the UFC, but thanks to your awesome manager, you landed in Invicta.
    5. Instead on fighting, getting better and trying to make weight, you waste you time bitching about it.

    Enough said.

    • Molat

      What do you mean Ronda has no interest fighting outside her division? Ronda said she would fight Gina at 145.

      There are a lot of former cheaters in the UFC. Barnett, Belfort, Marquardt, Overreem, Sonnen, Cerrone…..

      • joedick

        Ronda never said 145, it could be a catch weight. Ronda is not worried about Gina at any weight so losing is not an issue for her or the UFC. But a competitive Cyborg would need to make bantamweight for the UFC to be interested. Rousey and White have already tried to make the fight at 135, Cyborg claimed she would die making weight.

        • Molat

          Gina repeatedly missed weight at 140. How is she going to fight at 135.
          Cyborg also offered a catch weight to Ronda.

          • Seth

            Folks, you don’t get one simple difference.

            Rousey Vs Gina – in which universe that’s legit fight? Its just buzzbringer, something that will be talked about for a while and may get some more attention. So no one gives a shit about weight in that fight

            Rousey Vs Cyborg – that’s legit fight. And if we want legit fight, we have to make it for the title. In order to do so – Cyborg has to make 135. Its still CYBORG who has to prove she’s the best. Ronda already did that. If Cris wants to “regain” top spot, she has to prove it. Not Ronda.

          • Molat

            Cyborg already said she would drop to 135 for 3 fights!
            How does Carano deserve this over Cyborg? Carano hasn’t fought in years and Cyborg beat Carano.

          • Maddawgmar

            Them if she drops to 135 then this isn’t an issue. It’s only an issue because she wants Rousey to make it easy for her. there is simply no reason to fight at a weight that is not for a belt. And that weight is 135

          • Seth

            Can Cyborg make 135? I never saw her at 135. If she makes 135 and beat someone relevant to show that she’s still herself at that weight, let’s do that. Now, we are talking about fairy tails “what it”. I can say I will make 125 for 10 fights. That doesn’t mean I can physically do that.

          • fsunoles10

            have you not been following the conversation? catchweight bud and cyborg doesnt deserve that same luxury simply cuz she pissed hot, the champ doesnt have to go to your weight, that defeats the purpose of having a champ. cyborg is the one hurting for the rousey fight not the other way around, maybe she should put down the ped’s if she really wants to make that fight happen cuz its not gonna be a catchweight.

          • Molat

            Cyborg has been pissing clean for 3 years.
            Why won’t Ronda fight Cyborg at catch weight but she will fight Carano at catch weight? What’s the difference. The only difference is Carano is an easier fight!

      • Maddawgmar

        She never said that she would fight at 145, she said at a catchweight. That mean at a predetermined weight agreed upon by both fighters. Hell they could meet at 139 or 144, that’s for them to decide. And here is the thing about your cheaters in the UFC, they are able to make weight in the division they fight at while clean, and they aren’t trying to pick on a smaller fighter. You don’t see Overeem saying that Chris Weidman should fight him at a catchweight. If Cy’roid’ was able to make weight at 135 to fight in the a UFC this would be a non issue.

    • UOENO

      You’re an idiot. Cyborg cleared all that PED stuff up a long time ago. Why are we still talking about it? I’ve seen dozens of other athletes get in trouble for PEDs, serve their suspensions if necessary, and pay their fines and end up back to competing at a high level.

      Is this the only argument rousey nut huggers can pull out of the barrel? Jeeze.

      • Maddawgmar

        The reason it is still valid is because had she never used ‘roids her body would have not gotten to a point to where she wouldn’t be able to make 135 easily. C’mon she is 5’8″ no reason she shouldn’t be able to make 135. I know women that are close to six feet that walk around at 140 lbs. Bottom line, she destroyed her body with male hormones and steroids, she disgraced herself, so she needs to redeem herself and quit blaming others.

        • David Huenecke

          You do realize 140 for a six foot woman is not really a healthy weight right? Its attractive but its not a healthy weight. I agree with everything else you said though.

          • Maddawgmar

            Depends on who you ask. It is lower on the target weight scale for that height. But not unhealthy. 138-169 depending on frame is what most med journals say is a healthy range with the ideal weight being around 155. But my point is, for a natural woman on no hormones, Steroids or any other PEDs and 5’8″, 135 is a healthy and attainable weight. It’s just her years of bodybuilding using the stuff she used wrecked her body to where she may not be able to get down there. And it’s her own fault.

          • earlsimmons

            No it doesnt depend on who you ask. you have some of the dumbest comments on here. 6′ 140lb women is not healthy. And 135lb for a 5’8” women is healthy but with 10-15 lbs more than it is steriod use? Bro it does not sound like you have ever been to a gym and seen how some women lift weights. It isnt hard to put on a couple lbs of muslce. ESPECIALLY when its your job.

      • Seth

        My dear friend – I said she’s coming of a suspension and while she was called “the best” female MMA fighter, she was roided up. If she’s clean now – highly doubt that – then prove that you are the best. Like I said, SHE is the one that has something to prove right now. If she’s so badass and so awesome etc. go to 135 and take the belt away from Rousey.

        Like people mentioned it, that wouldn’t be the best move for her. If she’s so concern about her health, she should stop talking about it. Since J-Brookins made 125, she would prolly make that 135, but wouldn’t be easy for sure. If she wants Rousey so bad, she can either make 135 and fight for the title, or wait till Rousey losses the belt – then we can make catchweight at any weight, since Cyborg most likely won’t be physically able to drop to 135lbs.

        To sum stuff up, all Cyborg has to do is make 135, beat someone relevant to show that she’s still same Cyborg she was at 145 and she can go to fight Rousey. But if she will continue to talk s*** instead talking with Mike Dolce, then I doubt she even wants that. She talks like it’s Ronda stopping that fight from happening, while she’s the one that can’t even make that weight right now and that’s why group of people that dislike Cyborg grows. She should stop wasting time on talking about dropping weight and actually do that.

        • Fern

          Look dude, Ronda proclaimed to the whole world after a post fight interview that she would fight Cyborg in the parking lot if she had to.. Last I checked, there are no weigh ins for parking lot brawls. (although it would be pretty funny if there were)
          So what happened with all the tough talk from Ronda?
          I”ll tell you what, she realized that she has a lot at stake and there is serious chance of her losing all her fame and fortune.

          • Seth

            People chose to hate Ronda. And that’s cool, you have all the rights in the world to do so.

            Thing is, 145lbs fight makes no sense. UFC has no 145lbs female division. No 145lbs female title. So that fight would mean nothing in UFC. In MMA World – yeah, that would be huge fighter no matter what. That fight HAS to happen as UFC title fight, that’s why Cyborg has to drop down to 135. It’s really THAT simple. Like I said, Cyborg needs that fight more as she has to prove she’s still the best, so don’t expect Ronda to put everything on the line, against roided up freak – which Cyborg is at 145lbs. That would be just stupid.

        • afansinceufc2

          Why is she willing to fight Carano at 145 and not Cyborg? Could it be that Carano has not fought in 5 years, has already lost to Cyborg, and it gives her a chance to gain more nut huggers like yourself beating a washed up fighter. I am not a big Cyborg fan it is just that I would like to see Rousey back up the talk and i think it would be a good fight, aside from Zingano who else is she going to fight that will make a good fight.

          • Seth

            You hit it right on point – and I wrote that a few times here already. Rousey/Carano is NOT a fight. It’s an exhibition at best. That’s why it doesn’t matter what weight that will be at. That “fight” would be most irrelevant and meaningless fight in UFC female bantamweight division history. Even more meaningless than Rousey/Tate 2.

  • Shartnado2, the Sloppy One

    I never thought i would be rooting for Cyborg, a cheater. That just shows what kind of a low life Ronda is, and obviously ducking

    • aaron gustaveson

      How is it “ducking” Cyborg doesnt deserve any exceptions, imo she should be ban from the sport entirely.

      • toom

        alright so half the male ufc roster should be banned then as well yeah she took steroids before but she still trains harder and fights more often then most other girls how can you say she doesnt deserve a shot

        • aaron gustaveson

          Yes, imo they should all be banned, unfortunately including Cheal, I love the guy but 17X normal WTF? I said she doesn’t deserve exceptions not that she doesn’t deserve a shot. There is no more exciting match-up. But she should have to fight a few fights first while being tested.

          • toom

            You do realize trt is just test right the most common steroid used so that’s like half the roster she should be tested though

          • Alex

            Every steroid cheater should be banned from the sport, but come on, look at this mutant’s face – you see the deformed jaw, all of her body just shouts out loud that she sits on all kinds of stuff, not just TRT LOL.
            However, the fact that she’s been busted on testosterone shows that she’s not exactly a ….woman

          • toom

            She still trains hard and fights more then any other fighter if she could test clean for 3 months before the fight she deserves it

          • Alex

            LOL maybe for you, she deserves it.
            For people, who actually understand sports and know what cheater is – she deserves nothing.
            UFC agree, Ronda agrees, I agree, only you disagree LOL. Whatever

          • aaron gustaveson

            I hope to see the fight happen but no she doesn’t deserve it.

          • Shartnado2, the Sloppy One

            if she can prove she wins fight without the juice yeah she deserves it. Shes dominant to not have a title shot

          • aaron gustaveson

            Everyone should be tested, some perhaps more stringently than other. TRT is dead, I like that.

        • Shartnado2, the Sloppy One

          hence the banning of TRT

          • toom

            She would have been in just as much trouble for taking that she didn’t have a trt exception she’s not a man so that makes no sense

  • aaron gustaveson

    I cant believe she walks at 160 5’8″. Thats a huge cut for a woman. I Know a 5’8″ 160 lb man and his arms are about twice the diameter of hers and he has body fat. YEARS of heavy ped use created that man/women body she has.

    • bcoyo

      Couldn’t agree more. Cyborg should fight that Fallon fox guy. Two men trying to beat up on women. That’s a crime. Men trained in mma should not be fighting women. Cyborg is either a dude or a fmgirl so messed up on roids that the girl disapeared years ago.

  • b-soc

    Why? its a word called “fear”.

    • Alex

      It’s a word called “BS”, and it refers to everything you say LOL.
      Ronda is not afraid of a roided mutant, she doesn’t owe her a fight just because Cyborg rants about it and fights in other division.

      Carano deserves much more than Cyborg.

      • hahahwhat

        Alex you are a dumbass. Cyborg deserve the fight more. Ronda is to much of a bitch to ever fight her.. Its bulls–t saying is ok for her but not for the other chick because she “Roided” Everyone is roided even sonnen who the hell care… just fight.

        • b-soc

          Yes, Alex, your comment makes no sense. You are thinking more with your junk than your brain. Cyborg did get busted, served her time, and resumed fighting. Gina has been running around in Holywood and hasn’t fought in 5 years. Rhonda said she’d do a catchweight with Gina but Cyborg had to make 145. Why else would you give different terms to different fighters. Because your scared shitless. Simple.

      • This guyyyyyy

        Relax Ronda, the “roided mutant” will pound you soon enough. Anyone thinking otherwise is a fool.

        • Alex

          LOL @ delusional troll, thinking that one of the most successful and richest fighters in MMA would defend herself in some comments.

          Ronda cares about your kind even less than she cares about the cheating shemale.

      • afansinceufc2

        You Rousey nut hugger if she is as great as you think then what is the problem with giving Cyborg a shot? Cyborg beat Carano and has also been in the game a long time, she has tested clean so if she continues to test clean then Rousey should giver her the shot and back up her big mouth. It would give all you Rousey worshipers a chance to show she is as great as you say or do you fear she will get her azz kicked and have to move back to the trailer park.

      • Kareem Francis

        “Carano deserves much more than Cyborg “…..Your MMA/WMMA opinion is irrelevant after that statement.

  • uncle

    who else besides Cat Zingango she can fight ? her
    Division is getting boring so they need a Cyborg and
    Holm to keep it interesting

    • Alex

      It’s your problem that you’re an uneducated moron and don’t know who is the deserving contender in that division.
      Who cares what you consider boring or what not – no ones cares to entertain you.

      Alexis is the next deserving contender, and other bunch of winners – Andrade, Nunes,Pena – are on their ways and need to fight each other to move closer in a title picture.
      Holm doesn’t deserve crap with her can beating and ridiculous money demands – for all we know, any top 10 fighter should be a favorite to beat the hell out of her any given day LOL

      • uncle

        So tell me which cereal box did you
        get your P.H.D from to analyze me ?
        cause I see all of those fighters you
        think are contenders losing to Ronda
        in a heartbeat, maybe your too stupid
        too see she needs more of a challenge
        in women’s bantamweight

        • Alex

          I still haven’t finished my PHD on a Computer Science, sorry – I’m in the middle of my final OS project.
          However, I already work in a field as a DB Manager, so be sure that I know the difference between “you’re” and “your” LOL, unlike you, imbecile.

          It’s not Ronda’s problem, that the girls lose to her in a heartbeat, she’s just that good.
          That doesn’t seem though, that she needs to fight a roided shemale from the division above – duh.

          • uncle

            OK Thanks Bryant Gumbel

          • uncle

            Computer science sure just like
            you have 4 houses 2 boats
            and drive a lamborghini ,like your
            1 of Oprah’s nephews don’t
            lie and try to convince people
            I used your correctly you’re
            is a contraction of you are

            so conversation over grammar
            king

          • jeremy

            you are a fool

      • Fern

        wow you seriously are on Ronda’s nuts. There is no bias in your statements what so ever is there? lol

  • fsunoles10

    because she doesnt deserve the same luxury as a clean fighter, if she never pissed hot than maybe. people jumping on the cyborg bandwagon talking about rousey is scared are retarded, she is just talking ish to get the fight so dont kid yourself into thinking there is an ounce of fear between them. the reality is she isnt that skilled, she beats most of these girls on strength not out skilling them which brings this conversation around full circle back to pissing hot. she is the one that decided to leave the ufc so it is her own fault.

    • Maddawgmar

      Couldn’t agree more. I feel Rousey would make an exception to fight at a catchweight for Carano because she respects her. Why would she make an exception for a cheater. Plus we all saw what happens when Cy’roid’ fought someone with true technique. I don’t think either of them are afraid to fight each other, but the one with everything to lose shouldn’t have to make all the sacrifices to cater to the one with nothing to lose, if the one with nothing to lose has cheated in the past.

      • earlsimmons

        its the UFC… you dont get to pick people to fight based on respect. And what happened when cyborg fought someone with true technique? If your talking about that thai match I have no clue how your comparing the best female thai fighter in the world to someone with almost no standup…are you braindead? And what do you mean rousey has everything to lose? The more she dodges this fight the more she loses the fans respect and she looks like a chump. You must be a democrat to be this blind to this obvious protection from uncle dana so she can bring in more money for him. grow up kid.

        • Alex

          Hahaha loses the fans’ respect…whose respect she loses? Yours?
          Sorry kid, the low level of your IQ automatically makes your opinion unimportant – neither for UFC or me, nor for Ronda.

          When Cyborg fought Carano, she got super lucky that Gina has made a stupid technical mistake and released her from the mount position, where she would easily have finished the mutant by strikes.
          Just sign of things to come, boy – that is all.

      • Fern

        I simply don’t understand why people won’t let that go with Cyborg’s past. If we were to permanently axe every fight that ever juiced even once, there would be a whole light of great fighters and fights we wouldn’t have.
        Chael Sonnen, Vitor Belfort so many others. How come they get fight and keep getting matches but we won’t let Cyborgs go?
        You know why? because she’s a women, she’s not American and she’s not hot. Thats why.

        • Maddawgmar

          I can’t speak for everyone, but my personal reason is that she is trying to pick a fight with a champion in a weight division that she can’t make. You don’t see Vitor calling out Johny Hendricks or GSP saying they should meet him halfway because he can’t make 170. Chael didn’t use steroids he used TRT, which is not excusable, but not as bad as Stanozolol. I get your point, but IMO all her victories up to he point she was caught is brought into question. She has to redeem herself, so she needs to make the effort not Rousey.

          • Lawdog1521

            There’s a couple thing wrong with your analogy. Hendrix has never fought at a higher weight. Not only has Rousy fought at a higher weight, she had a title there. Cyborg’s title, I might add. And before Cyborg could come back Rousey ran off to a lower class.

            The other thing wrong here is that Womens MMA is different than Mens MMA. The talent pool isn’t deep enough so traditionally women are more willing to take fights at different weight classes. I’ve seen interviews were women have said they were happy to take any fight just to get on a card. Rousey was the same… unless it involved fighting Cyborg.

    • brad king

      Get off the cheap drugs! Rousey is terrified at the thought of facing cyborg. Even Dana is horrified at the thought of Rousey lying face down out cold after a missed arm bar attempt!

      • Alex

        You tell your beloved Cyroid to get off the cheap drugs.
        Oh wait…those drugs are not cheap LOL – they are actually anabolics that deform her face and body so she could continue be the champ in her 145 division.

        Dana and Ronda don’t give a pile of crap about the Cyborg, and the mutant her(him?)self is getting desperate for not getting an attention from the martial arts world – an attention that she doesn’t deserve anyway LOL

        • Gerard

          why do you speak for the martial arts world? I sure want to see that fight

    • The Prognosticator

      I suggest you watch Cyborg’s fights more closely. I have seen virtually all of them, even the tape of her getting subbed by Erica Paes in her first professional fight. Cyborg is by far the best and most technical female striker in MMA history bar none.

  • Tommy02127

    Brad king the ufc hired mike dolce to help cyborg cut weight she asked to be released how does that equal Ronda or Dana being scared. I personally think cyborg beats rousey it’s just people sound so ridiculous with all the conspiracy theories.

    • Fern

      I understand what your saying. I doubt Ronda is truly “scared” in the conventional way of fighting Cyborg in a sanctioned fight with rules and a ref.
      I think she (and Dana) is more so scared or perhaps “concerned” about losing her title and all the privileges, pay per views, income etc. Not nearly as many casual fans are going to dish out big pay per view bucks to watch not so attractive Cyborg fight challengers if she were the champ. Dana knows it, and thats why he’s in no hurry to make that fight happen.
      Its sad because I think it would be a fantastic fight and I enjoy watching Cyborg just as much as any fighter.

    • Cptmats

      Cyborg agree to fight Rousey at 135 lbs. ! Dana wouldn’t let it happen without a long term contract in place. Cyborg agreed to fight one time at 135 lbs. Dana wouldn’t do it without an eight fight deal in place because I’m sure he knows Cyborg would KO Rousey and then vacate the div.

  • Tommy02127

    I want to see the cyborg fight but until she wins the 135 title in invicta it will never happen and the Gina Carano immediate title fight talk is so ridculous first of all she hasn’t fought in 5 years and second WMMA has evolved and the quality of competition is far superior then 5 years ago and as far as Holm goes who has she fought she hasn’t proven herself in my opinion she needs to work her way up nobody should be ahead of Zingano or Alexis not even Cyborg. That said I’m dying for the rousey-cyborg fight I think it would be bigger then the carano fight I mean honestly who is interested in the carano-rousey fight for the competition that fight will bring rousey will steam roll her I’m not a rousey fan but her striking is a lot better and good enough to get her hands on carano and bring the fight to the mat and finish her at least cyborg can threaten her everywhere but cyborg should have to wait her turn unless it is ufc 135lb champ vs. invicta 135 lb. champ then she cuts the line that would be huge.

  • Fern

    There is only one issue involved here, MONEY!
    Its obvious both Ronda and the UFC/Dana have got a cash cow in Rousey being the champ. Rousey can fairly fight at 145 as she used to in Strikeforce and competed in the olympics even heavier.
    But she won’t and Dana won’t make her because there is too much money involved in keeping her champion and less if she is dethroned.
    If this was 10+ years ago or in a different organization this fight would have happened a long time ago, given the lack of depth in the wmma right now.
    Despite Cyborg being so freakishly strong (she’s not roiding anymore and really never was. Anyhow she has been tested many times since so just get over it people) I think Ronda’s technique is so superb (and her will to win) that she would have a very good chance in beating Cyborg. But there would also be a good chance that she would lose; more of a chance than any other female fighter out there, and Dana and Ronda, probably don’t want to take that risk.
    Plain and Simple!

    • The Prognosticator

      Well said Fern.

    • Sheikh

      What do you mean by “She’s not roiding anymore and nevervreally was”?, what do you know that we dont?
      Are you saying the failed test was a mistake.

  • Bugster

    Doesn’t really what weight you are Cyborg, I really dont think the UFC will sign her to fight Ronda.

  • Lawdog1521

    With as many years and as many excuses Rousy has used to avoid this fight, only her most rabid fanboys would believe she’s not ducking cyborg.

  • Cptmats

    you are an idiot. Fact.

  • michaelchimique

    it’s a sport not a f–king beauty pageant.

  • Usmc8408

    worse than fearful would be her just being juvenile and smug to not even give cyborg the time of day or consideration of moving up to 145 for her. either way, to me, Ronda is a little brat only propelled into the spotlight by UFC’s marketing. Someone’s got her number…..dammit I wish it was me!!. haha