Chael Sonnen Thinks Junior dos Santos’ Corner Should Be Suspended and Fired

November 1, 2013
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Chael-Sonnen-UFC-148-pre-press-005-478x270The third fight between UFC heavyweight champion Cain Velasquez and former titleholder Junior dos Santos was billed as the greatest trilogy in UFC history. In reality, it was a quick knockout followed by two of the most one-sided title fights in the promotion’s 20 years of existence.

The two heavyweights met for a third time at UFC 166 on Oct. 19 and Velasquez battered dos Santos, leaving most feeling that the fight should have been stopped earlier than it was. UFC president Dana White, during the post-fight press conference, said he was so appalled that he wanted to throw in the towel.

Dos Santos suffered memory loss from the fifth-round technical knockout. He appeared to be on autopilot from the third round on. UFC contender and Fox Sports analyst Chael Sonnen believes his corner should be held accountable.

“Junior dos Santos’ cornerman needs to be cut, period. That was beyond inappropriate that they sent him back out there,” said Sonnen during a recent question and answer session in Manchester, England.

“The doctor comes in twice. What that doctor was looking for, I have no idea. The referee didn’t stop the fight, though he should have. Ultimately it defaults to your cornerman, who you trust, who is like a father figure. And that guy let Junior dos Santos down, period,” added Sonnen. “The commission licenses these cornermen. I don’t have the foggiest idea why. I guest just to take their $25. That should be the first cornerman that’s suspended. That was beyond wrong what he did.”

Like White, Sonnen believes that dos Santos’ corner should have thrown in the towel, something rarely done in mixed marital arts.

“You do not stop the fight when your fighter can no longer continue. You stop the fight when your fighter can no longer win. The second your guy can’t win, you get him out of there,” he said. “That fight should have been stopped way earlier. It knocked years off of Junior’s life and career. That cornerman should be fired.”

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  • Brian H

    He would have been fired by Dos Santos had he thrown in the towel.

    • Milosc

      I was, at first, inclined to agree.. but considering the guy thought the fight had already been stopped in the 2nd round, he may have been more sensible about it

      Dos Santos is a “fighter”, there’s not a shred of doubt about that, but he isn’t stupid or crazy, either

      • Brian H

        I heard he didn’t remember some of the fight … but not that he thought it was stopped in the 2nd. Well said…

        • Kris-tyahn

          No Brian, Milosc is right, after the fight dos Santos told his trainers & friends in the back that he thought he was TKO’d in the 2nd round. He actually thought the 5th round was the 2nd round. That’s not normal, nor should he have gotten to that point. Look at BJ PEnn vs. GSP 2, BJ was concussed after the 2nd round, he does not remember the 3rd or 4th rounds & barely remembers anything after the fighters introduction. If GSP a WW was able to do that to BJ Penn, what do u think a HW like Cain who has 10 TKO/KO’s out of 12 wins would do to another human beings head?!?
          If dos Santos couldnt KO Cain from the 1st punch 3 secs in to that fight, then how did they expect him to KO/finish Cain after dos Santos was beaten like a mule for 20+ mins?!? You can’t win much of anything, especially a fight on “auto pilot” & dos Santos was barely on auto pilot, the only reason Cain didn’t “kill” dos Santos was b/c he attempted a lot more takedowns than he needed to. Had Cain just kept dos Santos’ up against the cage landeing combos, he would have KO’d him way before the 5th round, but the fact dos Santos has a heart the size of Frankie Edgar was the reason he was barely able to keep himself standing.

          • solo

            i agree with you completely. Dos Santos also didnt remember the interview with Joe when saying he will come back stronger so he can fight him again.

          • Kris-tyahn

            Yeah, the more stories you hear about dos Santos not remembering this interview, that interview, this round, the last round and the fact he thought the fight had ended in the 2nd round, when it actually ended in the 5th is very concerning to me, for dos Santos’ health & future. I’ve never ever heard of this kind of memory loss, that quick after a fight. How does he forget 3 rounds of fighting, within minutes of the fight being over?!? Honestly, how does that not concern his “entourage”?
            Hopefully this will be a lesson to fighters & especially their trainers that it’s better to pack up ur $iht & go home to fight another day, than to be a “hero” and take unecessary punishment that could very well prevent you from figthing another day, period.

  • Ron Wheeler

    It should have been stopped earlier because Velasquez’ fighting style was the most boring wet-blanket-smothering style I’ve seen since boring-ass Cormier ‘fought’.

    • toom

      Well clearly you have no idea what your taking about that fight may have been brining to someone who doesn’t know anything about mma I guess

      • Ron Wheeler

        you’re

    • https://www.facebook.com/bestnicknameeverbros Eugenio Croitoru

      Even though I wanted JDS to win, I disagree with you here. Everyone has their own unique fighting style. I don’t understand why you can’t accept Cain’s.

      • Flock of Burgers

        People who’ve never trained or fought in their lives tend to be the loudest critics about an actual fighter’s performance. It’s obvious that Ron is still in the closet and just waiting for his big break out.

    • robc

      Good to see that morons have opinions too… Second fight Junior’s face looked like he was hit by a car, Third fight, even worse and Cain got the stoppage. Seeing as Cain has an “85%” finish rate, you call that boring? In fact Cain actually has a higher finish rate than Junior Dos Santos (who sits at 75%). So a guy with one of the highest finish rates in the UFC is boring? Go watch best in show or something…

    • The second best eva

      You’re just dumb. I want bother trying explain why I think that because you seem simple minded. But you’re just dumb.

      • Ron Wheeler

        Well, thanks for that intelligent argument. i now feel SO enlightened.

    • Flock of Burgers

      At least Cain fights instead of trying to be a tough guy on the Internet :)

      • Ron Wheeler

        Happy to fight you in a regulated MMA fight.

        • Flock of Burgers

          Hahahahaha! Okay, bud! Any time, any place. Your undefeated “calling out people on the Internet” record is officially in jeopardy.

  • JDMMA

    Well said Sonnen !!! … but if his Greedy cornermen actually stop the fight based on “You stop the fight when your fighter can no longer win” then they would have lost the chance to get 10% of his win purse

  • https://www.facebook.com/bestnicknameeverbros Eugenio Croitoru

    I’m pretty sure JDS wanted to throw in the towel. The only thing that was going to stop him was his warrior like heart.

    • fsunoles10

      its called pride, something that has been flowing thru a mans body since the beginning of time. my guess is you feel this way because you lack the courage yourself to square off. punks? why are people punks because they enjoy martial arts and refuse to give up? sounds like to me majority of mma fighters have their priorities and the morals in check more so than you.

      • Kink

        You are an absolute disgrace to human beings as a species.

        Your condescending opinion about matters that you clearly have no experience or insight on is annoying.

        I don’t know why, but just from the words you’ve typed, I can tell you’re a cowardly keyboard warrior who has contributed absolutely nothing to the planet.

      • fsunoles10

        and this my friends supports what my last sentence was about, you just being an all around moron and it seems the ultimate keyboard warrior. why you calling me a moron so much bud? do you need to insult others in this way to convince yourself that you’re intelligent yourself? hah clearly you show otherwise, but dude just stop you and i both know you’re an idiot and havent fought in your life but love talking like it. im gonna take the chance of sounding like a keyboard warrior myself and say id would smash the **** out of you if you ever disrespected me like this in person thats why you’re so quick to do it online where there is no consequences.

      • fsunoles10

        your comments show how big of a joke you are. at the expense of sounding like a keyboard warrior i would curb stomp you for disrespecting that much in person. have fun living in your fantasy land.

        • fsunoles10

          my b for spamming the comment section i thought my last comment wasnt gonna get thru with the moderation deal so i wrote another one without that 1 cuss word. hah

        • Mike mckinney

          Be careful with the curb stomping. You might get rear ended by some skinheads upstate…. Great movie though I could have done without the shower scene. ;)

    • Kris-tyahn

      I completely agree, taking that kind of punishment for a round, maybe 2 is the MAX any fighter should take. No fighter will want to throw in the towell, but thats b/c they do not want to be viewed as a pu$$y/coward, but they’re also not thinking straight either, since they’ve probably sustained brain damage. As I’ve said above, BJ’s corner through in the towell & possibly saved BJ’s career & possibly his life. BJ even went on to say that his trainers probably saved his life by not allowing him to go out for a 5th round, I’m no doctor, but eating as many elbows & right lefts as BJ did in a span of 3 rounds, while dishing out maybe a half dozen strikes in 20 mins, means BJ had ZERO chance of winning the 5th round, let alone the fight, but he had a severely high % of possibly getting killed or severely brain damaged from a fighter who was fresh, vs. a guy who was running on heart fumes. I guarantee trainers & coaches will throw in the towell more often now, from this day forward b/c of this fight, I bet my life on it!

      • https://www.facebook.com/bestnicknameeverbros Eugenio Croitoru

        Which BJ Fight was this?

        • Kris-tyahn

          GSP vs BJ 2 fight!

          • https://www.facebook.com/bestnicknameeverbros Eugenio Croitoru

            Oh man, just saw the replays. I felt really bad for BJ Penn. Never seen someone get that exhausted.

      • A fan of honest fighters

        Good post.

        In Junior’s mind and his coaches, he is a striker. The final round is crucial to hitting that single punch that could turn the tide. Junior was not on his back the whole time, he was held against the cage. As a judgement call, the BJ Penn situation is completely different. Junior survived a broken jaw the last time, and stayed in it. I am pretty sure the effects of Cain wearing down his energy level is not as dramatic as the BJ Penn “stand in the pocket, eat shots for years” logic when the guy is on his back, clearly not holding onto a punchers chance.

        Regardless, good post. You made a better point than Chael.

        • Kris-tyahn

          Thanks, I understand your point of view with BJ being a punching bag laid on the floor, while dos Santos was still on his feet & “possibly” had a punchers chance of KO’ing Cain. Though, to be honest, I think the only reason dos Santos was standing, was b/c Cain allowed him to. Don’t get me wrong dos Santos did stuff several takedowns earlier in the fight, but I think Cain knew he could do more damage standing, since he was the one controling the fight…

          dos Santos suffered a broken jaw in their 2nd fight as well?!? WOW, I never knew that, I know he got his jaw broken in the 3rd fight, which the commission thought or accidentaly suspended Cain for that injury, while in fact it was dos Santos.
          AFofHF: Thoughts on trainers/coaches throwing in the towell more often b/c of this 3rd dos Santos & Cain fight?!?

    • WarriorMyAssLOLisGAY

      @WarriorMyAssLOL I am sure you haven’t been in a fight, the way you say your comments justifies you being pathetic. You are brave cause your with your computer.

    • DamianCross

      I agree with you. Its very easy to get caught up in the sport or to listen to the glory that TV and media promises you. Rocky ignores Adrian’s advice and still manages to win even though he is risking his career and his life. And these idiot kids eat it up.

      Reality is different. In reality, if JDS had died in that ring he would have inspired thousands to mediocrity, made Dana and the press a few bucks, and that’s all.

      Think of it this way…Miyamoto Musashi was a great samurai warrior. A legend. In the movies, books and TV, we see him cut down countless enemies and become a hero, towering over his defeated opponents that he beat with superior skill, time after time.

      In reality, Musashi slashed his opponents from behind and ran away. That is how he managed to survive so many duels. Live to fight another day..

  • kozmo

    Cain Velasquez is an entertaining fighter I have never been bored with any of his flight. Clearly you had betted money and lost

    • kozmo

      Fights*

      • Milosc

        *just edit..*

    • Ron Wheeler

      Bet? No.
      Got to hand it to him and Cormier – they have developed a style even more boring than lay and pray.

      • Lucas Freire

        right, against the most vicious striker on the HW division, he should just stand and trade, right? Blame is on JdS for gassing on the second round and not being able to neutralize Cain’s game.

  • Mr Pete

    Watching 2-3 of this “trilogy” is similar to watching Ali vs Frazier 1. It was clear the fight was over but Ali was too damn tough for his own good. Ultimately we all know what happened to Ali

  • A fan of honest fighters

    Chael needs to shut up. Honestly. He has a moronic comment on everything, it is brutal to listen to him make up something to say. He knows full well people are capable of making informative decisions, but apparently he is under some impression he is smarter than others. He is a liar, and disgrace to the sport, makes up things to say for attention. Ten bucks he challenges Dos Santos inside of a year.

    • ferpers

      I would agree, except he is exactly right on this.

  • YellowMonkey

    Although I agree that the corner and ref let JDS down, I can’t help but blame Cain. He would clearly rock JDS and be one or two hits away from the ref calling it but instead would clinch, let JDS recover a tad, then repeat. Awful.

  • Eddie Ash

    I have to agree. Everyone knows how tough JDS is. There is NO doubt about that. But corner should have thrown in the towel earlier in the fight to protect the fighter. Granted Cain couldn’t take him out ,but TKO should have been called way before it was. Unnecessary punishment in my opinion.

  • whattahw

    i usually would agree however from the view of jds if i trained as hard as i did and this is the third fight to prove im the best, your damn right im going to fight if it kills me. this type of situation you put more than just time in the gym. your putting everything you have into that cage, and all it takes is that one punch, which jds has, but it just didnt come through. so i think its the fighters choice.

  • dgs

    Wow, when did this sport become so pussified?

    While I appreciate the skill level of today’s athletes in MMA, I very much miss the halcyon years of the UFC when there was no rules, no time limits, you didn’t know who you were fighting (meaning you could very well be fighting someone who outweighed you by 100 pounds), and the judges didn’t interfere short of tap out or KO. What those early athletes lacked in skill, they sure made up for with brass balls. Now instead of brass balls, I think they’re being replaced with vagina’s, filled with sand no less!

    Now, a fighter gets beat up a bit and everyone and their mother is calling for the fighter’s corner to be fired, the ref to be fired, the cut man to be fired, etc. Ridiculous. This isn’t f%cking chess, it’s MMA for christsakes.

    • ferpers

      even though I don’t know you, if I watched you get knocked silly and then beat on for minutes more on end with no chance of coming back, I would have stepped in and interfered. And, I have no personal connection to you. This guy has personal friends as cornermen, and his career will be affected by damage he takes. He took WAY too much damage. Shit, he was knocked out in the third! He stumbled up and was pushed up against the fence to be slowly beaten to bloody hell the rest of the fight…

  • Guest

    Chael is so right on this! I must say it again, all the people who were in JDS’s corner that night are complete idiots!

  • Big Tuna

    I love a good fight but hate to see folks take damage like JDS, I too was like stop the fight! He would thank his corner a week later. He wouldn’t fire his corner these guys not state fair tuff man comp fighters they are professionals and cooler heads would prevail within days

  • Obi-Wan Granoli

    i agree, that should’ve been stopped.

  • MarkDoll

    This always happens to me. Can’t remember how I able to go back home. burp :P

  • freedomloverboy

    It didn’t cross my mind that the fight should be stopped after the 2nd or 3rd round, to be honest. Perhaps if the cornerman knew in advance that JDS would have memory loss he would have thrown in the towel.

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