Alistair Overeem vs. Frank Mir Added to UFC 167

September 5, 2013
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Alistair Overeem vs Frank Mir A heavyweight clash between former Strikeforce champion Alistair Overeem and former UFC champion Frank Mir has been added to the already stacked UFC 167 card on Nov. 16 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

The match-up was announced by the Las Vegas Review-Journal on Thursday evening.

Both fighters come into the bout on losing streaks. Overeem has lost both of his fights since returning from a de facto nine-month drug suspension, while Mir, who replaced Overeem in the title fight after he was suspended, has now lost three in a row.

UFC 167 will be headlined by a welterweight title fight between Georges St-Pierre and Johny Hendricks. Rashad Evans vs. Chael Sonnen, Rory MacDonald vs. Robbie Lawler and Josh Koscheck vs. Tyron Woodley rounds out the pay-per-view portion of the card.

UFC 167 also servers as the UFC’s 20th Anniversary event.

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  • BudLight Year

    Most likely, the loser of this fight will be cut

    • devaughn currie

      Agreed this is a loser go’s home match.

    • uncle

      Most likely, the loser is going to bellator

    • Maddawgmar

      If Overeem loses I can see him being cut. If Mir loses he should retire. Dana won’t cut Mir, he is a permanent staple in the orginization. It could be like Tito, let him fight as long as he wants to fight. But I love me some Frank Mir, hope he wins, but if he loses he should retire.

      • http://www.CombatScienceMMA.com/ CombatScienceMMA

        If Mir lost I wonder if he would even be interested in Bellator. Honestly what does Ortiz/Rampage do for them as pro fighters. What would they try to pull off next Mir vs Tito or Rampage? Kongo is over there now, nobody wants to see Ex UFC fighters fighting each other again in another organization. I love Mir but I’m going with The Reem on this.

        • Lucas Freire

          One of the UFC’s pretty faces going to the Bellator? That’d be funny. lol
          And I disagree, by the way the UFC gets all the best fighters on the heavier divisions Kongo,Tito and Rampage are the best shots any other promotion has at HW/LHW
          You’d rather see Kongo vs Bellator’s HW champion(I don’t even know who it is)
          Or King Mo vs some random HW?

          • http://www.CombatScienceMMA.com/ CombatScienceMMA

            Yes because it would help build an up and coming fighter and give them a chance to get their name out there. If their not in the UFC anymore I don’t want to see them fight guys they’ve already lost to or lost with.

        • Mark McDowall

          Nobody except the Bellator brass!!

    • Cereal Killer

      No way either of them ever gets cut. Just like Pat Barry, they are fan favorites. Besides, the HW division is too thin to let them go. I do agree that Mir should call it a career if he does lose.

      • Werdoomb

        Except that Pat Barry gets paid 1/3 the amount paid to each of these guys.

        As to Reem, yes, there is a good chance that he will get cut should be lose this one.

        As to Mir, Dana might let him retire.

        But assuming these guys agree to a pay cut, which they won’t, I see no reason why anyone would believe that the loser would stay with the company.

        Cereal Killer needs to learn econ 101 before making dooomb comments like comparing Pat Barry, and undercard guy hired solely for that purpose, with Reem or Mir, main card guys that get are well paid.

        • Cereal Killer

          Econ 101, Congo doesn’t sell PPV’s, Overeem does. Overeem still has main event/co-main event drawing power.
          You should stop insulting everybody like a two year old.

          • Cptmats

            “Overeem still has main event/co-main event drawing power. ”

            Still ?
            He never had it to begin with !

          • Mark McDowall

            Coming in to the UFC he definitely had PPV selling potential. But now I think the selling power is gone…after his suspension and 2 straight KO losses…I think that ship has sailed.

          • Werdoomb

            obviously, cereal killer is a one-dimensional simpleton.

            He’s made doomb statements like that in the past. Doomb, over-generalized, logically flawed, weird statements.

          • Werdoomb

            Econ 101, Reem’s PPV power diminishes as his ranking diminishes. Should Kongo start winning, his PPV power will go up too.

            U r DOOOOMMMBB!

          • Werdoomb

            What you just said proves my point rather than refute anything I’ve said.

            You seriously need to take education seriously you cereal boy.

      • The Best Eva

        The UFC has never hesitated though to cut pricey Heavyweights.

        I think Reems too expensive to have here losing all the time but he’s young and with a win could get his game back together.

        Mir just matters less because he’s just not a top 10 anymore no matter how much he wants to believe he is.

    • bajafox

      Budlight rules

    • The Best Eva

      I think Overeem is done if he loses but Mir might get that crying bs fight because of his history with the UFC.

  • Advance*

    Mir is one of my favorite fighters but I just don’t see any way that he doesn’t get TKO’d here.

    • devaughn currie

      He needs to be smart and geT the fight to the ground right away then when reem gets gasses take him out.. But ever since frank returned from his injury he’s been try to prove something by standing up

      • Werdoomb

        Not entirely true. Even before the accident Frank Mir got Koed by Freeman in a similar fashion to the ways he’s been losing after the accident. In fact, Frank Mir’s relevance comes from his post-accident wins over Lesnar and Nog.

        I just don’t understand how people could say ill-thought-out stuff like this.

        Mir before the accident was a one-dimensional BJJ/karate guy that was so-so. Mir became well-rounded post-accident.

        Get your facts straight.

        • Advance*

          Yeah I think his problem is that he has no sense of urgency and he takes big shots in situations where other fighters are able to defend themselves. This whole camp for him should be about getting off the fence.

        • devaughn currie

          I understand all the facts and the facts are franks been dropped by nog carwin lesnar and now Barnett them are the facts and if he staNds and plays the clinch game it can happen again.

  • https://www.facebook.com/bestnicknameeverbros Eugenio Croitoru

    This card is so stacked…….

    • The Best Eva

      Good card Hendricks will KO st.Pierre and I’ll get hammered.

  • BobGyro

    No contest
    Mir will KO Overeem he’s over the hill

    • Werdoomb

      we get it you are funny.

      Mir is over the hill as well.

      It’s over the hill vs over the hill.

      I say Reem gets TRT asap.

  • wow

    2 big boys with weak chins…someone’s getting knocked out

    • insane187288

      When has mir had a weak chin? he is on a three fight loosing streak but to champions so to say he has tottaly lost it is a bold statement knowing that he could probably go to any other organisation and probably be champ.

      • Cigano

        When has Mir had a good chin? He usually folds after being hit – e.g.: Lesnar, Carwin, Freeman, Vera and JDS. Big Nog had him down in the rematch, anymore punches and Mir would’ve been KTFO.

        • Werdoomb

          You forgot Cruz.

          Yeah, pretty much any top 10 guy that can pack a punch could end Mir’s night.

          Roy Nelson, Cheick Kongo, Mitrione, and other bottom-tier HWs can’t beat Frank Mir.

      • devaughn currie

        Ah let’s see two of the last 3 fights he has been dropped face down to the canvas. But he has never been out cold that’s saying something

        • Werdoomb

          who cares?

          Fact of the matter is, Mir’s chin ain’t great and he wilts under pressure, the same way Overeem wilts right before he loses.

  • dgs

    This fight is even more unnecessary than Tito vs Rampage. Absolutely zero interest in who wins or losses this one.

    • Guest

      Agree with the sentiment, poor comparison w/ Tito and Rampage. This isn’t a main event or co-main event bout so I don’t think many people are going to care too much (if at all).

      • Joe

        Zero interest? WTF beats either of these guys that is ranked in the top 10? Fighters have ups & downs I’m their careers, Look at Randy, Hendo, BJ, Coleman, people said they should retire after a dominate career then a few losses, then each came back to win major titles. Some of the all time most exciting fights were those that didn’t mean anything, if you don’t believe me watch Frye vs Takayama, that fight had zero meaning as far as ranking was concerned.
        If either of these guys pick up their next three to four wins with one being over a top 5 opponent this board will be clamoring for then to get a title shot. Its not always the better fighter that wins, its who is better that night.

        • Werdoomb

          zero interest is doomb.

          I agree that both are not in the title picture but it is nonetheless a big fight.

  • teroothe

    both fighters will get knocked out before the fight starts. this is purely a money fight.

  • JMoney

    How can you call yourself a fight fan and say you have NO interest in this fight…

    This fight will be awesome… Are they the best HW going around.. NO! Are they two of the best HW to ever enter cage.. Hell Yeah!

    People complain about garbage.. Pretend there above these kind of match ups.. I don’t think i know a 10+ year
    MMA fan who wouldn’t want to watch this fight..

    Kids (gen Y) have no respect for fighters as soon as they lose a few or become slightly over the hill.. Worst fans of any sport..

    Hating on Dana White when they have NO IDEA what he really did to keep this sport alive.. The guy put his balls on the line for the love of this sport..

    Kids….

    • http://www.CombatScienceMMA.com/ CombatScienceMMA

      Awesome comment. This fight will be awesome and has high stakes. The winner could be only two fights away from being in title talks again. If JDS losses I’m sure a lot of people still want to see him and Reem go at it. Please follow me on facebook and twitter.

    • John Bunch

      I have to agree. A lot of the fun and excitement about Pride was fights that were just good fights between good matchups. People get too focused on the title picture these days…and I’ve gone down that path before…but for me to really enjoy this sport it’s got to be about more than title shots and title implication bouts. Or I end up hinging on a few fights a month instead of 20-30 a month. Overeem has something to prove…as does Mir. Could be a great fight!

    • Eddie

      Good post, but I think you should be referring to Gen. Z(1995-present), rather than Gen Y(1977-94) because Gen Z did not witness the Pride FC days.

      Also, it is quite arguable that Pride consistently had exciting fights than UFC had today.

      Regardless of the facts, The Reem and Mir are real fighters because they treat their fights as a fight. There are fighters (GSP, Benson, Macdonald, 70% of UFC fihgters) who treat their fights as a sport; they come in with “game plans” in order to score points.

      AND yes, judging is responsible for these boring fights. However, TWO things will solve this problem: 1.) Effort to finish the fight [by way of strikes and/or submission attempts]
      2.) Accumulated damage.

      BOOM! by adding these two categories to the score cards will increase incentives to finish fights.

      • Cigano

        You can’t really call Rory Macdonald a points fighter because of one fight that ended by points. The kid usually brings it and has had many exciting fights.

    • Cptmats

      ” Are they two of the best HW to ever enter cage.. ”

      Mir maybe, Overeem not even close !

      • JMoney

        Overeem has a fantasic record and has had a very good career…

        YES! he is one of the best heavyweights of all time.. I would put him in the top 10 with his resume..

        • Cptmats

          LOL

  • Lucas Freire

    Mir comes from two clinch losses.
    Puts him against Overeem.
    Guess someone wants Mir out.

    • JMoney

      Mir wanted this fight, strangely..

    • deepgrim

      exactly what i was thinking myself, he has been completely ragged dolled the last 2 fights. funny thing is that he has looked in better shape recently but he just cant deal with the power grapplers in the clinch and overeem is a monster in them situations.

  • truthbtold

    The 90s called…They want there Alistair picture back

    • JoeMammy

      Actually that’s a recent picture, Reem is just returning to normal.

  • julian moran

    Good fight, Tailor made for Overeem. Who ever picked these pictures?

  • bajafox

    Loser goes to Bellator, winner stays as UFC HW gate keeper

  • Ray Lane

    Thank goodness! At least Overeem can get a win now

  • David Huenecke

    Based on the pics loser gets a better haircut. Winner keeps their awesome do.

  • Jay W

    Overeem should win this by starting off with a quick barrage of strikes and since mir has zero chin, overeem will win and the ufc will say “he’s back”.. We all know they both suck

  • Mark McDowall

    The only thing that would make this fight interesting to me is if they did it WWE style and after the match Vince McMahon comes out and screams “YOURE FIRED” at the looser. Won’t happen…but something needs to be done to spice up a completely pointless fight…